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Richest 1% use their entire annual carbon limit in just 10 days. (www.oxfamamerica.org)
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[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Oxfam’s research shows that the richest 1% —comprising 77 million individuals, including billionaires, millionaires, and those earning over $140,000 per year in PPP terms— were responsible for 15.9% of global CO2 emissions in 2019. The bottom 50% (3.9 billion people with an average annual income of $2,000 in PPP terms) accounted for 7.7%

Billionaires and the other 0.01% (not 1%) account for a ludicrously outsized amount of Carbon spend. However the Oxfam research really calls out how outsized even a much Carbon even a much more modest American lifestyle is. $140k/year is a lot even in the US, but still well within what many would call "normal", especially in pricier areas. We spend a lot of time attacking billionaires for their lifestyles (and don't get me wrong -- fuck them all), but the problem is a lot larger than that.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

My counter is they are the ones preventing any major changes at the political level. Climate change doesn't impact the wealthy and powerful.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 hours ago

It also shows how incredible the impact of the wealth gap on climate issues is even in rich countries like the US. The 1% having per capita emissions of 76t, whereas US average is at 17.6t. It is even starker in Europe with a lot of rich people, but lower per capita emissions.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But remember, it's YOUR responsibility to recycle.

[–] ori@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If you rephrase these stats, the group from top 50% to top 1% is responsible for 76,4% of Co2. pretty sure you are in that group.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not anywhere in that group. I haven't even had a car in over ten years.

[–] ori@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So you are below 2000$ per year?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Well below that, yes.

If you're arguing that anyone making over 2k a year is part of the problem, then why even argue anything? You're missing the point that there's a much much smaller group of people causing much much more pollution.

"If you take every adult alive into consideration then they are responsible for all the pollution". Yeah, no shit.

[–] ori@lemmy.world 0 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)

Is blaming a worse group an excuse for a larger group to ignore everything?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

If the worse group is responsible for the overwhelming majority, yes.

Do you always concern troll so ineffectively?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

It would seem we have a pathway to save the planet, if this is the extend of their transgressions already.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

To be fair, I have already failed to properly recycle an item or two, as well.