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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] ori@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you rephrase these stats, the group from top 50% to top 1% is responsible for 76,4% of Co2. pretty sure you are in that group.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not anywhere in that group. I haven't even had a car in over ten years.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

You probably are, that bottom 50% is emitting 0.6 tons of co2 per year per person according to that research.

Heating and cooling an average American home emits 2 tons of co2 if your using electric, even more for natural gas

One cross country flight emits 0.6 tons of co2

Eating meat is about 2 tons a year

Idk your lifestyle but you probably consume more than that bottom 50% earning $5 a day.

[–] ori@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So you are below 2000$ per year?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Well below that, yes.

If you're arguing that anyone making over 2k a year is part of the problem, then why even argue anything? You're missing the point that there's a much much smaller group of people causing much much more pollution.

"If you take every adult alive into consideration then they are responsible for all the pollution". Yeah, no shit.

[–] ori@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is blaming a worse group an excuse for a larger group to ignore everything?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If the worse group is responsible for the overwhelming majority, yes. Not many people in the other group are ignoring it.

Do you always concern troll so ineffectively? ...Ori and the Blind Reasoning over here.

[–] ori@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

As i stated before, they are not responsible for the overwhelming majority, they are just much higher per person.

Even if you fix the top 1% to 0 you are still left with 84,1% of the previous emitted Co2.

I do agree that there should be reductions but not just to the top 1% and definitely dont blame someone as an excuse to be bad yourself.