Wikipedia is probably the only thing that has survived rounds and rounds of enshitification. Of course they want to destroy it. The fucks are psychopathic, and seriously, if Wikipedia caves I will probably be radicalized.
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2025
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THIS is the line for you? In spite of everything else?
Not everyone wants to feel like they need to take violent extremist action to fight back against them. What actions have you taken to fight back?
Where did you get violent extremism from? That's not radicalization. Though some people who are radicalized choose to incorporate violence as part of direct action it is extremely rare.
Do some mutual aid for starters. (This is what I've done, among other things, i will not elaborate.)
If you want to fight back on this particular issue and have tech skills you can run counter-intel and expose fashy heritage foundation boys or you could do other methods like decoy or feed false identifying info.
I'm happy anyone gets motivated to take action. Just a little surprised that it startes with wikipedia editors and not, just for example, palestine or women's bodily autonomy.
Where did you get violent extremism from?
Wikipedia for radicalization
What are the names and addresses of the people who are saying they're going to do that?
Come and get me.
Normal Brownshirt stuff.
Anyone has an update on the ANI vs Wikimedia legal thats ongoing in India, because the heritage foundation is just throwong around a threat, that Indian judge might actually do it.
If you want to download all of Wikipedia just in case
They publish their own database dumps here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#Where_do_I_get_it.3F
Burning Alexandria bcs knowledge works too much anti-oppression.
Sounds like we should develop plans to identify and target the heritage foundation.
violate Wikipedia’s rules and escalate tensions over bias accusations
after being alive over the last ~10 years, i just can't understand how people still think "rules" matter to republicans. there's literally a convicted felon rapist in the white house and people are still talking about rules, laws, ethics, the constitution, and everything else that USED TO matter.
they're getting every single thing they want, and it's not "rules" that'll ever stop them
It's not just Republicans at this point... It's the entire system. His inauguration itself will be illegal and unconstitutional since he's ineligible to hold office after sparking insurrection. But the Democrats keep climbing over each other to make sure everyone sees how peaceful this transfer of power is.
It blows my mind that they keep doing that. Why do they think that going “see, we’re the good guys, and we’re so good that we’re going to peacefully hand over control of every branch of government to the fascists” as though the US population is going to see that a positive. It’s clear now, if it wasn’t before, that their claims of a threat to democracy was just campaign messaging for them, not a real belief. (And to be clear, the Republicans are very much a threat to what passes for democracy in the US.) The Democrats seem all too happy to be in the minority again and rake in the donations from outraged liberals who think that the old rules still apply.
...people are still talking about rules, laws, ethics, the constitution, and everything else that USED TO matter.
That's because they still believe in the existing institutions that were designed to uphold laws, rules, and ethics, even though those institutions are obviously failing, and have been for some time. I suppose the erosion of said institutions has occurred gradually enough that the full scope hasn't necessarily been apparent to everyone, but it should be by now. Anyone who still believes that these institutions are sufficient for maintaining a stable liberal democracy is just delusional, at this point.
Exactly this.
Rule of law is dying, and things like this are what will kill it dead. Thinking you can put a stop to this with lawyers is for the naive or the wealthy.
Anyone who still believes that these institutions are sufficient for maintaining a stable liberal democracy is just delusional, at this point.
Twenty years ago, I remember asking my high school teacher about how the legal system here in Australia works cause we don't have a bill of rights. I was told the "traditions of Parliament" would protect free speech and human rights even though it's not written down anywhere...
Fast forward twenty years and Australia's government is fully in the pocket of monopolistic corporations and a handful of elite families who own the top banking industries - mining, gambling, etc.
"When you're [rich] they just let you do it" - guess who
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Maybe it's finally time for me to donate to Wikipedia for the first time.
As soon as muskrat targeted them I set up a monthly donation.
That sounds like a threat to create fear or "terror" towards Wikipedia editors. The heritage foundation are treating closely to looking and acting like terrorists.
The heritage foundation are ~~treating closely to looking and acting like~~ terrorists.
The Heritage address in Washington DC is extremely easy to look up. I would post it here, but someone would probably ban me for doing unto them what they would do unto us. Still the opportunity to get them before they get you exists.
Here ya go: 214 Massachusetts Avenue NE, Washington, D.C., U.S.- right on the Wikipedia page.
Of course, I wouldn't advise doing anything more than a lively peaceful protest outside. But also I can't stop you from doing something more effective.
Let’s-a-go! - Luigi
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Awww… are the violent genocidal colonizers feeling insecure and butthurt?
So if it’s legal for them to do it to Wikipedia, can we crowd source doing it to them?
Can't doxx people that gladly shout this kind of stuff in public.
Consequences make them afraid. And shame works on them too, but only if it is from their kind.
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Sounds like terrorism to me
Opsec is more important than ever. Gangs-talking is real.
Fascists want to attack everything good
F the Heritage foundation. Just another conservative propaganda machine that twists objective fact to support conclusions or starts with conclusions and eliminates contrary data or nuance until they get what they want.
This is just more Y’all Qaeda sharia law trying to create their own alternative facts and control the narrative.
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This is why it pisses me off wikipedia makes it impossible to edit using most VPNs or TOR.
Like I understand there is a spam problem, but lots of people don’t feel safe (or straight up can’t) edit using their normal IP.
What solution would you propose? I assume the main problem is that it supposedly limits Wikipedia's ability to ban people that would otherwise just make another account? Maybe they could limit VPN editing to accounts with 500 edits or whatever.
In any case now seems like a great time to prod them to reconsider this policy.
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Attack information. Don't allow the unwashed masses access to data. Don't allow them to think.
Just headlines, pics and tweets.
It's like George Orwell was a prophet.
He was a (recent) historian... 1984 was modeled on the Soviet Union and nazism.
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Maybe I am naive, or was too hopeful, but considering how astroturfed all platforms are by nation states and other bad actors, I only now realized Wikipedia could be extremely compromised due to their inability to withstand such attacks. The internet is over.
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