Well fuck economic growth.
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2025
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I hate how they frame it as a "full work week lost".
No, this was "time with family" lost, "time to better your health" lost, "time to focus on mental health" lost...
Also, being in a car for that long (instead of using a more active form of transportation), likely results in time lost off their lifespan, too.
Yeah as they say sitting for long periods physically doing nothing is similar to smoking for cardiovascular health.
...I shudder to think of the effects of being stuck in traffic while breathing in everybody else's fumes.
42 hours with family, friends.
Corporate media's sycophantic bias laid bare.
Sleeping. Preparing food that's not instant garbage. Etc.
Now that the unpaid time you dedicated to getting to and from your job opens up they suddenly wanna claim it like it was always theirs.
My take is i should get paid the second my alarmclock goes off on a time i would in my free time have preferred to keep sleeping. Either that, or i should not get paid at all, my hours become my choice and basic comfort becomes free to all.
It feels a bit radical but I feel the same way. Maybe not before I leave my home, because then they'd wanna tell me what I can do with that time, but commuting? Heck yeah.
It's like paying for shipping and handling. I wouldn't otherwise be expending resources to go do this thing, and I'm being compelled to do it by currency. Sounds like employees need to tack on a "transportation fee."
And this is basically how I explained to my boss once upon a time that suddenly requiring us to go into the office more was a de facto pay cut.
Let's get everyone back to the office, though! Amirite‽ (Lookin' at you Mayor Bowser.)
FFS
WFH in the current U.S suburban development pattern leads to traffic as well, as people in that context make on average more trips outside of the peak commuter times which would not have otherwise been made. CityNerd covered it in his last video, which has not been released on his YouTube channel yet (Nebula link here.
This is not a comment on the value of WFH being good or bad, but it's decidedly not a solution to any questions of transportation, and I would like for it to be kept out of those conversations so that the question does not steal oxygen from actual solutions like transit expansions, zoning reform, improved bicycle infrastructure and so on.
“the equivalent of a full work week — that resulted in $733 worth of time lost.”
Did it result in time lost or do people still do their full hours and effectively extend their workday to accomodate these long commute times. If the latter then what is actually lost is personal time (family time, exercise time, time to cook healthy meals, rest, etc).
It's definitely the second one.
Oh I know, let's add more lanes and car traffic flow controls. That's proven successful
Some people commute longer than that in a month
Motorcycles and lane splitting ftw