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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The leadership would rather let the population freeze than do the right thing.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be more-generous.

My understanding is that most of the economy in Transnistria is basically there because Russia has been providing highly-subsidized gas, and that if they were paying market rate, a lot of the industry there would simply go under.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria#Economy

The economy is based on a mix of heavy industry (steel production), electricity production, and manufacturing (textile production), which together account for about 80% of the total industrial output.

Steel production and electricity production at least are going to be basically driven by access to that gas.

I mean, yeah, it'd probably be efficient for it to go under and for resources and labor tied up in it to shift to something else. But I suppose that they're basically staring at overwhelming and rapid deindustrialization. Like, I would guess that a lot of people in Transnistria are basically looking at the future and seeing a giant gaping void.

I mean, Germany was very much affected by political pressures related to cheap Russian natural gas around the outset of the conflict, and Germany's industry is much less dependent on the gas and has a more-diversified economy.

The place might have a whole ton of other factors involved, ethnic, corruption, Russia buying influence, whatever, but even if you removed that from the picture, and you're just thinking about the perspective of some random person in Transnistria, I can believe that the economic disruption that they're facing from that huge shift is pretty staggering.

They probably need to make plans no matter what, and they probably shouldn't have put themselves in this place, but at this point, I expect that all the options they have are gonna be near-term very bad.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

The dependence had been very much encouraged. The political influence there was a core strategy and very effective.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

May your frozen asses enjoy the long European winter.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As long as the Romanian power link isn't finished yet, Moldova is electrically dependent on a power plant in Transnistria, that runs on gas (1992-2024 from Russia) or coal.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago

https://newsmaker.md/ro/energocom-a-asigurat-necesarul-de-energie-electrica-pentru-2-ianuarie-va-fi-cumparata-electricitate-inclusiv-din-ucraina/

Moldova's electricity company claims they can import enough energy and it seems the difficulties are mostly contractual not technical.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 2 days ago

@5714 They're connected already and they do just fine, but the prices on our market are bigger. They want to import from Ukraine too.

@TransplantedSconie

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 18 points 2 days ago

He can change! He’s gonna take me to Paris, he said so!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Like how? By truck through Romania 😂 ?

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sooo… it appears to be a county of Moldova? Surely one county doesn’t have that jurisdiction? So why didn’t they just say Moldova?

[–] False@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

It's basically a region owned by pro-Russian rebels.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 24 points 2 days ago

Because it’s a semi-autonomous state inside a state.

It doesn’t reflect Moldova just as Moldova doesn’t reflect it.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There are Russian-ish soldiers stationed there and some thousands of ... eh... I think artillery shells? Grenades? Well, weapons are stored not under Moldovian control, essentially acting as a three decade stalemate.

Edit:

18 tanks, 107 APC, 73 field guns, 46 antiaircraft installation, 176 tank destroyer, 1 Mi-8T, 1 Mi-24 (2009)

20,000 t Ammunition (2004)

[–] thanksforallthefish 6 points 2 days ago

Noting that the majority of the munitions stored there are 50+ years old and are as unstable as hell.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many soldiers could there be? 10k? 20k?

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia said 4-5k and some untranslated quotes implicated not the highest morale, but it'd be best if this goes down without a repetition of the 700 dead in 1992.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I will do a wild guess and say that that number is not useful as distraction or cannon fodder given how russian tactics work

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 2 days ago

@LaFinlandia you're always the most free and independent under the Russian boot /s