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[–] theFibonacciEffect@feddit.de 200 points 1 year ago (6 children)

About 50% of people are below average

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This cracks me up because it is often said with such confidence, but it is just wrong.

If you have 10 people, 8 have an intelligence score of 1, 1 has a score of 5 and 1 has a score of 10. The average is 2.3 which means that 80% of the people are below average.

The median is the only thing that is going to guarantee 50%.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

On a bell curve the average and mean are the same. Your example isn't a bell curve. Many things will be a bell curve.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

People who don't know that average can be mean, median or mode depending on the context crack me up.

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[–] theFibonacciEffect@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, that statement is made under the assumption of large sample sizes (where the central limit theorem applies)

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Think about how dumb the average person is. And then remember that half of them are dumber than that!

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he was shit at statistics. He mixes up median and mean.

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Statistically, IQ follows a standard distribution, so the median and mean should be relatively close.

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And you lose most of the audience when discussing median, I'm guessing there was a conscious choice to sacrifice some accuracy for comedic value

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I guess the education system is really struggling ...

(Also his account is satire, right?)

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, he is the Congressman for California's 54th district (it only has 52, but was probably still 53 when he started the satire account).

[–] Haus@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Wow, at least 13 years. I remember coming across him when reddit was young: https://www.prwatch.org/spin/2010/09/9423/washington-post-duped-fake-congressman

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

oh thank christ

[–] rahmad@lemmy.ml 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Err... im not sure everyone in this thread is getting the joke?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That the bottom 25% of scorers in standardized tests are in the bottom quartile of the distribution, which is literally defined as the bottom 25%, but the Twitter user seems to be using that fact to justify something yet he's literally just stating a fact?

The bottom 25% will always exist and there will always be 25% of the results contained within it.

Not sure how anyone doesn't get it, but this Twitter screenshot exists, so there's that.

Oh, sorry, this "x" exists. Dumb fucking name.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I misreading this or are you doubling down on not getting it’s satire?

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[–] funnystuff97@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The twitter account is a satire account. They're trying to stir the pot.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't forget that about half the population have an IQ below average

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Poe's law is a bitch.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Small head: He’s proving his point really well.
Big head: He’s proving his point really well.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% of people who have committed a murder have drunk DiHydrogen Monoxide within the last two weeks, do you feel safe giving this to your children?

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s toxic and can lead to DEATH if inhaled! Big if true!

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But 25% of all American students also scored in the top quartile on standardized tests, so it cancels out!

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, it's amazing that every student at least got placed on the graph. Missing that would be shameful.

[–] Haywire@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Just another example of those damn participation trophies.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

But at least the healthcare system is quite good: most people have more legs than average

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[–] Fox@pawb.social 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] willeypete23@reddthat.com 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How astute. You're really top of the bell curve.

[–] OneNot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey that's a sly insult :D

I'm definitely gonna use that one later.

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[–] solidsnake2085@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are memes just straight screenshots of Twitter now?

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] samson@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked

[–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is officially the second dumbest take on the value of a quarter.

I knew a person who thought quarter to six meant 5:35 because "how many cents in a quarter dumbass."

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically, if everyone gets the full mark, no one will be in the bottom quartile.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

Also, everyone would be in the bottom quartile. The definitions fall apart when you collapse the probability function.

[–] Eq0 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m overthinking this.

If everyone gets the full mark, it’s not a random variable anymore, you would have a collapse of the probability distribution, that would tend to a Dirac delta function. In this case, the very definition of “quartiles” would fail. So, yeah, there would be no one there because it wouldn’t exist.

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[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If ever a reliable method for measuring actual intelligence rather than IQ is invented I imagine we'll be seeing a somewhat lumpier graph than that smooth mean distribution curve.

[–] DrMango@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No, this is how a graph showing quartiles will always look because quartiles, by definition, always include a fixed percentage of the studied population under them.

In this case the lower quartile will always have 25% of the population under it, 50% under the second quartile, and 75% under the third quartile.

Quartiles break a population into 4 equal portions.

[–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

While that's true, the actual empirical curve does not have to be smooth. Or gaussian.

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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

At the end of the day, reducing intelligence down to one single number is already kind of questionable. What does it mean for someone to be 1 point more intelligent than another person?

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[–] TooLazyDidntName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
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[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

He couldn't be more right. Absolutely appalling.

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