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Every damn job where I tried to do this did not end well for me. I got treated like absolute shit and the people who abused me were praised for their actions even when they got fired after I was for trying to do the same shit to other people. It brought only harm to me and did not even benefit my employers all that much.
This advice makes you an exploitable schmuck and they will do that simply because they can.
Having a work ethic is a fine thing. Just don't let sleazy employers take advantage of it, because you'll get nothing in return.
Providing labour for free is a clown exercise
Can confirm
That's a year old article by a bootlicker
I have a work ethic. My work ethic is to be paid fairly for my labor.
Repeatedly devalue workers through layoffs and never promoting
Workers give up trying to climb the corporate ladder and do the bare minimum
surprised pikachu
They taught me this shit as a kid when my dad got laid off. "This quarter" thinking can have very long-term consequences.
Nobody wants to work π€‘
No, no, this is good advice, actually. I mean, it is a pain to go to the office twice, but flipping a switch only takes seconds, and you have the rest of the day to fuck around.
I used to get paid four hours showup time to drive fourty five minuets in to the plant to push a reset button on a motor control station. Usually at two in the morning. Shift operators were not allowed to do this task as there may be a reason the the reset tripped. Drive back home, catch more sleep. Then show up for the regular shift at seven thirty..
So get woken at 2am, leave home at 2.30, arrive back home at 4.15 (15 mins to get to the button and check things) , fall asleep if you're lucky by 5am, get woken by your alarm at 6 in the middle of REM sleep, shower, dress, leave at 6.45 for 7.30 arrival at work
I would be coming in late that day.
Often I did. 24/7 oncall made me a lot of cash. Sometimes I was the only one on the maintenance crew that was sober...
the only people who want to put in longer hours at the office have absolutely nothing to go home to.
they should be pitied instead of being vilified. drop them a "get well soon" message in social media should you encounter them.
This made me far more angry than your frying pan, just gotta say.
Aww I'm glad I stir your emotions sweet friend.
I could even recycle my comment from there:
https://lemmy.world/comment/14109469
Sometimes you have to use some pot as meat tenderizerβ¦
Lemme put my work ethic in the dishwasher first
So you turn on the lights, get your coffee and read your newspaper/browse your phone until someone else is actually there.
Then you do the same thing once you are the only person left.
Congratulations. Flipping on and off lightswitches is the shittiest metric a company can seek and is evidence of bad management.
It's stock-in-trade Boomerism. As though the social contract hadn't already been obliterated by parasitical corporations and rampant nepotism and Peter-Principled middle management.
To say nothing of the capability trap that most large corps are in, after a decade plus of finance junkying themselves into a hole, because free debt was more profitable than their actual business ventures.
Fuck these zombies. Let them implode- the way an actual free market demands.
Boomers know this ain't sustainable but they only got 20 years left so they need this bitch to feed their retirement... Fuck every one else
Hence, why owners will cater to boomers needs some but mostly to fears in practice
Isn't this how Japan's work ethic started?
Congratulations. Flipping on and off lightswitches is the shittiest metric a company can seek and is evidence of bad management.
There's an economic i enjoy reading names Richard Wolfe who bemoans the capitalist mentality of counting towards on productivity.
You clock in and you count up the hours. You get on the factory floor and you count up the widgets you've made that day. You check your portfolio and count up all the money you've made.
There's no concept of an upper bound. No idea how much you actually need or benefit from. One more is always desirable.
But what if, instead of counting up, we counted down? Know we need 10 widgets every day, so we count down until they're finished. Know we need 10 tasks done so we count down until they're completed. Know we need $100 to pay our bills, so we count down until we've earned it. Then we go home and enjoy our lives, rather than grinding endlessly at the millstone to build a surplus nobody asked for.
Even if you are productive from the minute you walk in to the minute you leave... who does that even benefit? Are you doing anything genuinely useful or just doing bullshit jobs to look busy? Are you reducing the workload of your peers or creating extra work for other people?
Because in the latter case, you're not a hard worker. You're a ballooning expense. Everyone behaving like you would be a disaster for your employer and your community at large.
There's no concept of an upper bound. No idea how much you actually need or benefit from. One more is always desirable.
They expect infinite growth.
In biology they call that "cancer" and if not stopped it destroys the host system.
Look, a company makes money by not giving you, the worker, the surplus the company made.
Yes! Pretend that you feel like this but do your own thing man. Show up to work excited but only do what youβre paid for or what they deserve.
You know thw thing is all the tales of really successful people arent about going to the office early and grinding down some stupid task a superior gave you but about following your dreams and putting effort into those. Quitting your job and taking out a loan to build a racecar or start helping people with pc repair or whatever your dream is, is better advice than putting any effort into something you hate. Its not work ethic but being a mindless slave.
So, become the office janitor?
So if the same person is opening and closing, what is everyone else doing? If you're going to saddle one employee with an important duty, you better have adequate compensation and opportunities.
There should be one person doing those tasks for most companies - the owner- who retains a lion's share of the surplus value created by their workers.
Employees don't owe the business anything other than their contracted labor. We are just still suffering the inertia of class traitors in the enormous Baby Boomer cohort, who made the work their entire identity, and who frankly love the taste of boot.
Idk what's more upsetting: the fact that I was called out as a slacker. Or this slacker waited 6 months to post this... Either way, where both in the same boat... I feel called out.
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Hehe.
Not just on the Americas side of the pond, apparently.
I'm applying for dozens and dozens of jobs right now in the UK, so I expect to get plenty of rejection emails, but today, Monday, two days before Christmas, 11 rejection emails so far, which is a record (I'm not upset, I am aware I will get far more rejections than interviews). Obviously people are working like crazy to get everything done right before Christmas, but I thought at least the UK was more relaxed on this stuff. You really couldn't wait until January to send out rejection emails? Gotta grind right up to Christmas?
Many might be automated emails. Some algorithm somewhere has decided that no human needs to see your resume.
You would think, but just before I checked my replies here, I got a text from a recruiter asking me if I was still interested in a job and I had an interview a couple of hours ago. π€·