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All searches in my town (Gatineau) list it as Ottawa but should be Gatineau.

Gatineau - Quebec - Canada Is not Ottawa - Ontario - Canada

It's very annoying and error inducing.

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[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The seach engine tries to infer the correct administrative area based on points. This is known behaviour of ~~nominatim~~ some search engines but doesn't mean that the data is incorrect

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well I don't know what is not incorrect if it list the incorrect city name.

[–] amelore@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Outaouais and Ottawa don't overlap in the data, so OSM data is correct.
They do show up here because Nomatim is wrong, I'm sure Nomatim devs do their best but it's often wrong, adding nearby locations.

I think here it sees this nearby node as near enough to be probably the correct city instead of looking at the boundary relation.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea who/what is nomatim or why OSM shows places with the wrong name I just see that and loose interest due to bad naming and my inability to fix it.

[–] amelore@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe the data of the specific shops is incomplete? Check if these shops have the city name in their data on openstreetmap.org. If not, add the addr:city tag.

If they do, check if organic maps has a bug about it yet, file one if not. (this is organic maps right?)

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Is OrganicMaps using Nominatim? It seems that Nominatim's reverse geocoding returns the correct results there: https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/details.html?osmtype=N&osmid=1134851553&class=place

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Oh, damn, I didn't notice this was OM. I wrongly assumed this was the main website.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There are a lot of incorrect towns in Australia too. It seems to be using the name of the map region instead of the name of the suburb or town

[–] ardorhb@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I agree that is most likely the reason. For me (in Germany) it always shows the wrong state for the city I live in because the map data is grouped with another bigger state.

I think it's rather an issue in Organic Maps and not wrong OSM data.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not even the region name as that would be Outaouais.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

Yes it's not the geographic region name, but seems to use the map name

For example much of western Sydney is shown as Liverpool even though that is one area

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Gatineau - Quebec - Canada Is not Ottawa - Ontario - Canada

And it's definitely not Ottawa - Quebec - Canada. That's extra confusing!

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t quote me on this but i’m fairly sure someone can triangulate your home location from these distances so maybe censor it a bit?

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

All they will find is a restaurant lol but you are right.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why osm is great, submit a change!

Just an idea, I don't do this so you may want to hear from someone who does 😅

[–] InsertUser@en.osm.town 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aaaand this is why it's important to donate to services like osm 😅 ah hope it's back up soon

[–] InsertUser@en.osm.town 4 points 2 months ago

@mvirts I'm not sure that ould have helped that much. They're apparently paying for redundant connections, but a single point of failure in the ISP's network is causing an outage on both of them.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 months ago

Why is this in English? Canada should only be French.

/s