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[–] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Speaking as a kiwi, Australia is the US of the southern hemisphere.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

You’re right, and New Zealand is our nicer, saner neighbour (Canada of the southern hemisphere)

[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

As an Australian, I have to agree. It sucks

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know, as an American, I've always felt like Australia was like even bigger Texas. Obviously, this isn't based on any firsthand experience, just my perception based on media, stereotypes, and memes. Like I said, I'm American.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of Texas is a conservative racist hellhole.

AFAIK Australians are orders of magnitudes better.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Compared to the US, probably, but in general Australia is a right wing conservative place, when compared to neighbours like NZ.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you seen the Governembt NZ elected and what they're doing to the Treaty ?

While as an Aussie who mostly agrees Australia is a conservative ass backwards shit hole, it would appear NZ is now aspirationaly Australia.

Oh yeah they are getting worse, but im not talking past 1 or two years, I’m more talking past 50 years timeframe.

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

"I love a sunburnt country, I love it a lot... it's just a pity about all the redneck fucks!" 🎵🎹🎵

[–] arf@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Having conservatism without the racism is like a pipe dream in the US

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh we also have that, my boss whose parents were immigrants hates immigrants.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I can understand that, as an American, Australia is near the top of the list of countries I'd consider moving to.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Million dollar starters home await u

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are those in real or Australian dollars?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 weeks ago

AUD, but their income is also AUD.

looks like median is closer to 800k tho outside of Sydney

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Soooooo cheaper than the 900k starter homes here in my suburban hell

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 weeks ago

Y'all are getting starter homes?

[–] No1@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Uhoh. Australia is gonna have to build a wall, isn't it?

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

They need two walls, one to keep Americans out and one to keep emus trapped in the middle.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, we let then in, they've already won, they even have war bases here that Australian federal politcans are not allowed to visit.

Personally I'd rather China took over, at least we'd get decent railways.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It makes some sense. Australia is not that unlike the US: there’s a lot of geographical spread, people more or less speak the same language, much of it is car-centric so you won’t have to get used to walking/cycling everywhere as you might in Europe, plus there’s a more or less functioning state healthcare system and much fewer guns in the hands of the general public. On the downside, the wildlife wants to kill you, and the locals will call you a “bloody seppo bastard” (rhyming slang for American, from “septic tank”/“yank”), though sometimes affectionately.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i have literally never heard the term seppo

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seppo if they're trying to be derogatory. Otherwise it's just yank.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 points 2 weeks ago

“yank” sounds seriously old-fashioned, like something from the Crocodile Dundee era.

In my friend group it’s like the american equivalent of pommy for brits.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Spoken by someone who has no idea.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Not for long.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thats because Australia is a much better place to live for the average citizen.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 weeks ago

That doesn't explain why some of these countries are green.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Guyana surprises me a little bit. The spectre of war is probably pretty unpleasant, but on the flipside that's one of the fastest growing economies in the world. The economic situation should be, at a minimum, stable for the average person.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Relevant Wendover. Just watched this one last night. Was pretty interesting.

[–] card797@champserver.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's pretty fat away.

[–] vormadikter@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, plus 10% would mean what? There is a 10% net-migration of the countries population towards the US... per what? Month? Decade? Minute? I wished more graphs where self-explanatory . This one isnt.

If someone has the answer to what this is actually supposed to mean, would be cool if it got posted.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It is literally written, right there, in the subheading:

Foreign Diaspora in the United States Less US Diaspora in Foreign Country, as a Share of Foreign Country Population

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Per what and when is not literally written.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Read it again. There's not a "per when" because it's measuring the Diasporas, which would just be "per all time, that are still alive"

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Diaspora just means dispersed people. It doesn't convey any time frame in and of itself

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, exactly, hence "per all time, that are still alive" because it's measuring the current number of American-born residents of each country, compared to the residents from said country in America.

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As of what year?

Edit: id also like to point out there are diaspora maps for time frames, so just posting a map with that word is as best trying to misleading or make a statement. Otherwise, that information would be freely available. That's how data works.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's an entirely different thing than "per unit of time". It's a valid question, turns out there isn't an answer, but some very basic searching linked me to the original map as released: http://cf.datawrapper.de/dduui/2/

To your edit, sure, there are diaspora maps for timeframes. Those are called immigration/emigration maps, because the acts of which grow or shrink a diaspora.

[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, I originally did say per what and when. So the when has always been an unanswered question. I've not changed my original question at all, because the original image doesn't answer them

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

He’s asking a valid question. There are no time references anywhere on the chart. Surely the numbers change over time, so knowing when the map was created is perfectly relevant.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Finally, a different map