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    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

    Unless you have an Nvidia card.

    I've been on linux for years, I work the Nvidia libraries all the time, I alternate booting wayland and X... I even use my AMD IGP as output these days, instead of the Nvidia card.

    And I STILL hold my breath wondering if I'm going to get a blackscreen, and have to go into tty mode or boot from a usb stick to investigate and fix it.

    [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    Works pretty well on pop!_os (with X) barring some oddities that I'm not even sure are specific to Nvidia cards (like the compositor losing its shit when I try to pop out a video from my browser and put it over a game's window)

    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

    I've been lucky then, only problems I'm having (Wayland + NVidia) are:

    • Steam menu corruption, mostly on friends window (can be solved by maximising window)
    • Maximising browser on my second screen results in not all the screen being used, but buttons react as if they were using the whole screen (so you're not clicking where you think you are). Solution is to resize window to maximum manually. Minor annoyance.

    Oh and I disabled stand-by entirely. It's was 50/50 if it would return from it. I think most problems are because I have mismatched resolutions (1080 and 1440).

    [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

    That 2nd monitor window thing sounds like a DPI scaling issue, especially if your main screen has different scaling than the one causing issues. I get this a lot at work because of my setup and the software I use (on windows btw) and I got so used to manually moving the window and smashing it against the top of the screen to maximize it that I don't really mind. But maybe the term can help you troubleshoot it further

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    [–] M137@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    English hard, apparently.

    I fucking hate this thing that's becoming more and more common. Obvious bad grammar and spelling mistakes in memes like this, it's become the rule rather than the exception in just the past year. And I'm certain it's rarely not done on purpose, it's the same with post and video titles both here, reddit, youtube etc. It gets clicks and comments and people fucking suck so they do it with no shame.

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    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

    Arch is driving down the middle, flipping off both sides while having the time of your life.

    (Caution: May be best or worst. Commenter may be heavily biased as he uses Arch btw.)

    [–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago

    I would rather use gentoo on my gaming rig than fuck around with DLLs for even a second

    [–] net00@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    Where did the 'windows resets all settings after an update' thing start?

    Somehow I've never seen this over using windows 10 for years...

    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 13 hours ago

    The privacy stuff? I've seen it happen in 11 for sure. I always check after an update now out of habit. But, not seen it in a while.

    Resetting dual boot stuff? Before EFI/UEFI it would happen on most windows updates. It would just overwrite the boot record in a totally arrogant fuck you to whatever was already there. But since EFi/UEFI it plays nice with other operating systems generally.

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

    TBF it's only happened to me once on 8.1 and once on 10. I think it's an uncommon bug

    [–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    My home firewall blocks ads and telemetry, no matter device/OS.

    [–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    Maybe M$ one day decided make Windows unbootable because it cannot connect to somesussymicrosoftprivacyviolater.com

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    [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    My standard response to "just go Linux" :

    I keep having to say this, as much as I like Linux for certain things, as a desktop it's still no competition to Windows, even with this awful shit going on.

    As some background - I wrote my first Fortran program on a Sperry Rand Univac (punched cards) in about 1985. Cobol was immediately after Fortran (wish I'd stuck with Cobol).

    I had my first UNIX class in about 1990.

    I run a Mint laptop (for the hell of it, and I do mean hell) . Power management is a joke. Configured as best as possible, walked in the other day and it was dead - as in battery at zero, won't even POST.

    Windows would never do this, no, Windows can never do this. It is incapable of running a battery to zero, it'll shutoff before then to protect the battery. To really kill it you have to boot to BIOS and let it sit, Windows will not let a battery get to zero.

    There no way even possible via the Mint GUI to config power management for things like low/critical battery conditions /actions. None, nada, zip, not at all. Command line only, in the twenty-furst century, something Windows has had since I don't recall, 95 I think (I was carrying a laptop then, and I believe it had hibernate, sorry, it's been what, almost thirty years now).

    There are many reasons why Linux doesn't compete with Windows on the desktop - this is just one glaring one.

    Now let's look at Office. Open an Excel spreadsheet with tables in any app other than excel. Tables are something that's just a given in excel, takes 10 seconds to setup, and you get automatic sorting and filtering, with near-zero effort. The devs of open office refuse to support tables, saying "you should manage data in a proper database app". While I don't disagree with the sentiment, no, I'm not setting up a DB in an open-source competitor to Access. That's just too much effort for simple sorting and filtering tasks, and isn't realistically shareable with other people. I do this several times a day in excel.

    Now there's that print monitor that's on by default, and can only be shut up by using a command line. Wtf? Again, in the 21st century?

    Networking... Yea, samba works, but how do you clear creds you used one time to connect to a share, even though you didn't say "save creds"? Oh, yea, command line again or go download an app to clear them for for you. In the 21st century?

    Oh, you have a wireless Logitech mouse? Linux won't even recognize it. You have to search for a solution and go find a third-party download that makes it work. My brand new wireless mouse works on any version of Windows since Win2k (at the least) and would probably work on Win95.

    Someone else said it better than me:

    Every time I've installed Linux as my main OS (many, many times since I was younger), it gets to an eventual point where every single thing I want to do requires googling around to figure out problems. While it's gotten much better, I always ended up reinstalling Windows or using my work Mac. Like one day I turn it on and the monitor doesn't look right. So I installed twenty things, run some arbitrary collection of commands, and it works.... only it doesn't save my preferences.

    So then I need to dig into .bashrc or .bash_profile (is bashrc even running? Hey let me investigate that first for 45 minutes) and get the command to run automatically.. but that doesn't work, so now I can't boot.. so I have to research (on my phone now, since the machine deathscreens me once the OS tries to load) how to fix that... then I am writing config lines for my specific monitor so it can access the native resolution... wait, does the config delimit by spaces, or by tabs?? anyway, it's been four hours, it's 3:00am and I'm like Bryan Cranston in that clip from Malcolm in the Middle where he has a car engine up in the air all because he tried to change a lightbulb.

    And then I get a new monitor, and it happens all damn over again. Oh shit, I got a new mouse too, and the drivers aren't supported - great! I finally made it to Friday night and now that I have 12 minutes away from my insane 16 month old, I can't wait to search for some drivers so I can get the cursor acceleration disabled. Or enabled. Or configured? What was I even trying to do again? What led me to this?

    I just can't do it anymore. People who understand it more than I will downvote and call me an idiot, but you can all kiss my ass because I refuse to do the computing equivalent of building a radio out of coconuts on a deserted island of ancient Linux forum posts because I want to have Spotify open on startup EVERY time and not just one time. I have tried to get into Linux as a main dev environment since 1997 and I've loved/liked/loathed it, in that order, every single time.

    I respect the shit out of the many people who are far, far smarter than me who a) built this stuff, and 2) spend their free time making Windows/Mac stuff work on a Linux environment, but the part of me who liked to experiment with Linux has been shot and killed and left to rot in a ditch along the interstate.

    Now I love Linux for my services: Proxmox, UnRAID, TrueNAS, containers for Syncthing, PiHole, Owncloud/NextCloud, CasaOS/Yuno, etc, etc. I even run a few Windows VM's on Linux (Proxmox) because that's better than running Linux VM's of a Windows server.

    Linux is brilliant for this stuff. Just not brilliant for a desktop, let alone in a business environment.

    Linux doesn't even use a common shell (which is a good thing in it's own way), and that's a massive barrier for users.

    If it were 40 years ago, maybe Linux would've had a chance to beat MS, even then it would've required settling on a single GUI (which is arguably half of why Windows became a standard, the other half being a common API), a common build (so the same tools/utilities are always available), and a commitment to put usability for the inexperienced user first.

    These are what MS did in the 1980's to make Windows attractive to the 3 groups who contend with desktops: developers, business management, end users.

    All this without considering the systems management requirements of even an SMB with perhaps a dozen users (let alone an enterprise with tens of thousands).

    [–] RaccoonBall@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

    Some pretty wild claims in there. It's okay to just not like it without making stuff up like 'Linux doesn't support Logitech mice' or 'windows can never run a laptop battery to zero'.

    [–] senorblackbean@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

    mfs dont know about "O&O ShutUp 10++"

    [–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

    After months of trying, I still can't get Linux to recognize the 2.5Gbit network cards, or to function with multiple monitors. If the hardware support was better, I would ditch Windows for good instantly.

    [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago

    Although I agree in spirit, there is a bloatfree version of windows 11 called LTSC.

    Makes me one happy windows user.

    [–] Emi@ani.social 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Recently I have problem with high you and cpu usage, mainly GPU(GeForce 1060). Trying to troubleshoot it and updating drivers but so far it's still doing it with game that shouldn't be that demanding (timber born). So I'm debating switching completely to Linux already have Linux mint on second drive but remember having problems with the GPU drivers too. So while I like the simplicity and not bloated os not sure I want to troubleshoot other stuff and learning new os and using command line. I'm still very much noob with Linux so just want to ideally set it and for it just work and occasionally update without stuff breaking. -just a bit of rant about deciding, sorry if it doesn't belong here.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

    There is Bazzite which is setup for gaming, and has ISOs specific to hardware type

    [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    I'd just rather use Windows and not have to deal with my games not being supported, explaining to people how to print a word document or have to mess with wifi drivers.

    [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

    A lot of those stereotypical problems have been non-issues for a long time. Last time I had to fuck around with wifi drivers was somewhere around 2012.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

    There are comments on this post proving that those "non-issues" are still issues.

    [–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago

    Earlier this month I bought a cheap Asus laptop for my gf and put zorin on it only to find that no one makes Linux drivers for the included WiFi card. Bought a new WiFi card and ended up returning the laptop because the touchpad wouldn't work correctly either.

    [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

    Anecdotal evidence blahblahblah. For example: I just had to reverse engineer some epson drivers to get my fucking printer to play with my USB hub. Shit sucks sometimes, and I'm not going to pretend windows doesn't also have it's moments, but they sure as hell are less frequent (for me recently) than they are on windows.

    Linux by its nature is very fractious (See: the Gentoo vs Debian debate that had been going on since the dawn of time...), and that means we don't get one general distro. Linux's big strength is in it's customizability, and while for you and me it's clearly a great option that we love and cherish, for my grandma it's just not there in terms of plug-n'-play usability. Also, it was probably made by the wrong sort of Baptist or something, my grandma is awful.
    ...
    Anyways, while I love Linux, it's nice that there's an option for the people who just don't care. I'd love for them to start caring, because they should, but until I'm made omnipotent dictator for life it's just not going to happen. And that sucks, but at least I don't get calls at 4am asking why they cant get a flatpak working on debian. (I know it's supported but...)

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