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[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 minutes ago

Hello. I'm from Germany and I have bad news for you. If our own history taught me anything, it's this: When there is a critical mass of citizens (including military personnel) who are willing to ignore common societal values and at the same time there is a corrupt justice system which can just bend the law to their will, there is very little in the way to full scale fascism. You guys have the groundwork for this right in front of your face. Your supreme court is only inches away from fulfilling that role and the last election showed that a majority of people are already blindsided enough to wholeheartedly believe the bullshit that they are being fed.

So please don't take this lightly. Democracy is not for granted and it can be taken away. It's a slow process up to a point where things fall in place and then it happens very quickly. In Germany the rise of the Nazis didn't happen over night. Warning signs were there from the first world war on, and the slow erosion of society along with economic factors was a key element. Hitler himself was widely regarded as a loud mouthed clown with little chance to actually accomplish anything.

The erosion part has been going on in the US for decades now. This time, most of the puzzle pieces needed are already in place.

And about the "they are incompetent, it won't be that bad" argument. They don't need competence to break things when they are in power. Breaking things is precisely what these people are looking for. Destruction of democratic values, economic instability, fear, poverty, chaos and social unrest are the key to more power. You just need to look at the designated cabinet positions. Those candidates were specifically chosen to fuck things up in the worst way imaginable. This is not a coincidence. This is a recipe taken right from the fascist's handbook.

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren't coming for their biggest target first. They're coming for their political opposition, the "abortionists", the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill...

RFK Jr.:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,"

Re-education camps, huh.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 6 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

I suspect the powers that be will let this orange chucklefuck have a little fun but if he really starts eating into their profits and refuses to back off, he's going to have an accident.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 5 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, his plans are going to destroy the economy, and I'm pretty sure our corporate overlords won't like that.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

They'll love it. They'll buy our country up for pennies on the dollar.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 27 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hope everyone in the military is going to be ready because this psycho is going to be calling on you...to do every little thing he wants.

Need to shut down those protesting against him? Better be there.

Need to start beating down people who voted against him? Better be there.

Nothing you'll do will be for the sake of this country's entire interests, it'll be for his interests.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

That's why I'm hoping the military does its job and protects the country and constitution from him.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 5 points 32 minutes ago

Well if he has his way, he's going to be able to remove general at will

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 83 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Bracing for "Wait, I didn't think you meant me?!?!?"

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 44 points 3 hours ago

"Cool, a leopard! Can I pet it?"

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The guy who couldn't build A WALL is going to orchestrate a mass deportation on millions and millions of people? Ok. Lol. Also, what happens when fruit/vegetables start to rot on the vine because they don't have anyone who will take their shit wages to do it.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

We bail out all the farmers as we've always done.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 65 points 4 hours ago (18 children)

Next up: arson attack on US Congress. And then the Enabling Act.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

My crazy prediction is that trump will try to duplicate the burning of the Reichstag. Except, in typical fashion, he will do so in a comically inept fashion. He'll try to burn down the Reichstag, and he'll actually succeed! Unfortunately, he'll burn down the Reichstag...the actual Reichstag, not the US capital, but the present-day German parliament building.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 58 minutes ago

Yep. All of this talk about the makeup of Congress, and having an opposition party becomes moot when you hand power to fascists.

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 29 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (20 children)

There are not enough ICE officers to conduct mass deportation in red states, let alone blue ones. Trump will require cooperation of local police.

If he uses the military in Blue states, it's an obvious attack on the 10th Amendment. It's also illegal to use the military for domestic police work.

We can bet on incompetence for now. Trump needs to grow ICE to a large size before he's even able to conduct a large scale deportation plan of any kind. Deploying the National Guard would be a faux pas, but that's probably the workaround else need to prepare for legally.

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 59 points 3 hours ago (18 children)

Oh no, its illegal to use the military for domestic police work? Deploying the National Guard would be a "faux pas"?

Well, I'm sure that will stop him for sure!

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

Stoking a violent insurrection while plotting a coup violated a few laws and norms, too.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sure they can put a call out to anyone with a gun and a hatred of immigrants (legal or otherwise) to volunteer to help out. Maybe they can even all have matching bands around their arm so they know who are helping.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 49 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

"prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program."

  • Trump reposted Fitton's comment Monday with the caption, "TRUE!!"

I don’t even know what to say. I’m gobsmacked to depression daily that you’re ok with this.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 55 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

But EGG PRICES! The economy!

And he's such a strong leader...

(I am paraphrasing actual interviews our local networks did with college students)

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think those colleges need to stop charging tuition. Clearly, their education is worthless.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

They need to take their phones away in class.

I hate to sound so salty and old, but jeez.

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[–] Sakychu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 4 hours ago

Hey, the democratic party wasn't close enough to the workers so there was no alternative..

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Everything will be a national emergency to pass any and everything they want to.

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