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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn't care or couldn't be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who's to say that isn't going to happen this time around?

Also, Trump said Latinos have a "murder gene," so he already thinks they're all criminals of some sort.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone without white skin needs to get a passport and maintain a line of getting it. I.e. if you get fast deported you can have a family member mail it to you in Mexico.

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[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 hours ago

Unlawful deportations happen all the time everywhere. It will happen and probably happened quite often in the last years

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

This happened in operation wetback under the Eisenhower admin. So it happened after wwii as well.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Also while some peoples definition of criminal is "murderer" or similar some peoples definition is closer to "you did or a relative did something not 100% legal in the last generation or two.

edit: some peoples definition of criminal will definitely include unhoused or non-land owning eventually

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It already includes being homeless. The anti camping bans are straight up making it illegal to camp without a house to go back to.

[–] islands@lemmy.cafe 43 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How can anyone listen to Trump's racist rants about shit hole countries and walk away thinking "he doesn't mean me"? He absolutely means you. There's about to be a whole lot of faces meeting some very hungry leopards.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago

Aren't criminals already being deported if they are caught? He was clear that he is after immigrants (in some speeches illegal, but in some even legal)

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

What part of "mass deportations" do people not understand? Trump told us what he's going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he's going to do. They're going to do it.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but all they heard were campaign ads. And what little news they did hear either is actually propaganda that came from Fox News or their local news that's actually part of Sinclair.

That combined with the shenanigans of social media the last few years, yep, low information voters only wind up hearing the lies they were meant to hear.

"The system is running as intended! Huzzah!"

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 49 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They made "migrating" a crime, so, yeah, leopards...face...

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[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 179 points 16 hours ago

Smokers hope cancer reaches only 'bad people'

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

The trump admin couldn't be bothered to keep the children and parents together while caging immigrants last time--why would anyone expect him to differentiate the legals from the illegals?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 120 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone that thinks that it's going to be only 'criminals' that get deported forget that crossing the border without documentation is a crime. Yeah, it's a misdemeanor, but it's still a crime, and the Trump administration is still going to deport them when they can.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 78 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Adjudicating whether or not someone is guilty of a crime, or in the US illegally, requires a trial. Doing that for millions of people all of a sudden within a system that’s already backed up by more than a year is completely impossible.

In other words, they are absolutely talking about deporting innocent people of the wrong ethnicity without any attempt at due process, and anyone who thinks different is living in a dream world. And then, once they’re done with that batch, they plan to move on to other classes of undesirables.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ummmmm Conservatives already see them as criminals because they are here "illegal". By default all undocumented migrants are criminals.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (8 children)

Trump also said he'd aggressively deport and sort through the mistakes later. He's going to deport legal immigrants too, and I very much doubt they'll let them back in without an extensive legal battle. Which will never move forward because he'll intentionally starve the court system (like congress already did at his order) so that realistically, they will never get through the system.

Great fucking job giving Nazis free reign, you stupid, stupid, evil fuckers. You had a choice to fight nazis when it was easy. Just a vote. But you chose nazis, one way or another.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 79 points 16 hours ago (19 children)

you all understand this is about racism, right? this is a giant dog whistle for rounding up non-white people and getting them the fuck out of their white nationalist dream.

its not about crime, or which immigrants are good or bad. its about kicking out the brown peoples. its easy to manipulate racist voters. they are all ignorant cowards.

[–] PoopDelivery@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

I live in a very white area and I'm not white. I'm telling people close to me I'm in fight or flight constantly. They tell me states or the supreme Court (wtf) will block trump, or I'm not an immigrant so I don't have to worry, or I'm somehow safer being surrounded by white people even though I stick out like a sore thumb. They feel safe and have bullshit hope and belief and can somehow forget how entirely subjugated black people have been through the entire hisory of America. I'm so fucking tired I don't even care some days. Can't wait to be asked what I'm thankful for this holiday.

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