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I got a copy of the text from the email, and added it below, with personal information and link trackers removed.

Hello [receiver's name],

I’ve long dreamed about working for Mozilla. I learned how to send encrypted e-mail using Mozilla Thunderbird, and I’ve been a Firefox user since almost as long as I can remember. In more recent years, I’ve been an avid follower of Mozilla’s advocacy work, and was lucky enough to partner with Mozilla on investigative journalism in my last job.

In many ways, Mozilla was the dream – and now, as the leader of the Foundation, my job is to make my dreams for Mozilla come true. What that means, though, is making your dreams come true – for a trustworthy and open future of technology; for tech that is a tool for liberation, not limitation; and for tech that values people over profit.

So I’m reaching out to technologists, activists, researchers, engineers, policy experts, and, most importantly, to you – the people who make up the Mozilla community – to ask a simple question.

[receiver's name]. What is your dream for Mozilla? I invite you to take a moment to share your thoughts by completing this brief survey.

Let’s start with this question:

Question 1: What is most important to you right now about technology and the internet?

  • Protecting my privacy online
  • Avoiding scams
  • Choosing products, apps, technology, and services that I can trust
  • Keeping children safe online
  • Responsible use of AI
  • Keeping the internet is open and free
  • Knowing how to spot misinformation
  • Other (please specify)

Take the survey now →

With your help, together we can imagine and create the Internet we want. Thank you for being a part of this.

Always yours,

Nabiha Syed Executive Director Mozilla Foundation

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Embrace RFC 8890 ("The Internet is for End Users") as a guiding principle for all Mozilla client app design and for the organization as a whole:

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8890.html

Specifically, delete item 9 from the Mozilla manifesto and replace it with "follow RFC 8890". That's not supposed to be an anti-business stance, but rather, a recognition that the commercial side of the internet has the resources to look after its own interests, and Mozilla should be on the user side, rather than trying to straddle both sides.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 35 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I want nothing to do with AI, everything is like "I want transparency" I dont want them involved at all, pissing away money buzz words.

What do you want from mozilla? an open source privacy focused browser.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You're free to send your data to google or deepl instead of using Firefox's included AI translate. You know, privacy, no AI in the browser, choose one.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I filled it, but there's no avenue there to express my complete disdain for AI and how shit it can make a product. Just make everything AI optional, don't make me download data for shit I'll never use.

[–] SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I did the same thing. I just want a product or service that doesn't leverage AI. Mozilla's resources are better spent improving the web.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 85 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"We've decided to focus our efforts on AI and advertising. Please tell us why you think that's a good idea!"

[–] 7dev7random7@suppo.fi 10 points 12 hours ago

Well, you have the option to elaborate otherwise. Huge effort to normalize this survey.

[–] Dotcom@lemmy.ml 65 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Shame their AI question didn’t have a “my biggest concerns is companies chasing the AI buzzword with no tangible benefit”

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 19 points 15 hours ago

right? mozilla, you gotta focus on making a good web browser right now. not a more gimmicky web browser

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

I agree that's basically what I out in the text box underneath the AI multi-select options. "We don't want yet another annoying AI search feature or chatbot! We want a focus on useable features and security!"

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm not anti-ai, but all signs point to the who thing stagnating, I don't see what mozilla could contribute in the current climate.

[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 26 points 14 hours ago

You can submit the survey without checking any of the boxes on the AI question, just FYI.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 58 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just make a better browser… you literally pioneered RUST

[–] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They were for years, called the servo engine. Until they killed off development of course

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

The result of the whole thing was project quantum. Firefox includes lots of Rust code. Servo was never intended to be a product, it always was a research platform.

[–] LPThinker@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Thankfully, development of Servo has been revived, and it's now fully independent of Mozilla. I believe it's now being stewarded by the Linux Foundation of Europe, with a lot of contributions from Igalia.

[–] LPThinker@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The fact that there's no option to express my anger over the environmental cost of AI is infuriating. There is no responsible or positive use of AI when it's accelerating the destruction of our climate.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

~~I see a textbox saying "What do you want to see from Mozilla in the future?" You could add it there, as justification for why you want them to focus less on it~~

There is a text box part way through, I included my more general thoughts there

(my comment was getting rambly)

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 15 hours ago

you get a star

[–] Retiring@lemmy.ml 29 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The audacity to direct you to a donations page after you fill out their survey 😂

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What if the whole survey is just a ploy for donations

[–] Tehhund@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

Always has been.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 14 hours ago

gecko webview for android, better site isolation

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 23 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

They seem to have a foregone conclusion that AI is a positive thing, rather than something that should be eradicated like smallpox or syphilis.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"Responsible use of AI" could mean things like providing small offline models for client-side translation. They're actually building that feature and the preview is already amazing.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Not just building it's shipping by default. That is, language detection and code that displays a popup asking you whether you want to download the actual translation model is shipping by default. About twelve megs per model, so 24 for a language pair.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

You're going to upset a lot of chess players if you get rid of all AI.

[–] srecko@lemm.ee -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's because it is a positive thing. Just because awful businesses hijacked and abused it doesn't mean it's all bad. Mozilla is approaching it in a positive way imo.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And what, exactly, is positive about it, that has no associated negative outcomes?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Specific to generative AI, I think client side generation can be a good thing, such as sentiment analysis or better word suggestions/autocomplete.

A number of other helpful tasks have negative outcomes, but if someone is going to use it, then I prefer they use the version of the tech that minimizes those negative outcomes. Whether Mozilla should be focussing on building that is a different matter though

AI that isn't generative AI has a lot of positive uses, but usually that's not what these discussions are about

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Prolong your browser for as long as necessary and explore the possibility of using the internet without any web browsers. Firefox is a last stand of competition, and without choice there might as well not be browsers at all.

Is it wise to have such a complex everything-app with no end in sight? (more like, no end in site)

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 5 points 13 hours ago

good set of questions while trying to be non biased on certain topics.

for me, topics about privacy and misinformation matter more than ai. i would like them to lean more on helping me identify ai generated text and deepfakes as far as ai is concerned.

i also liked that mozilla study about smart cars so more of that is nice.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

My dream: mozilla.exe . Too bad it takes SeaMonkey to do mozilla better than Mozilla.

[–] Mora@pawb.social -1 points 10 hours ago

Besides the already sketchy AI thing, I wonder why they need to know gender & ethnicity.