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[–] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The one ring is sitting on the transporter room floor

"Mr. O'Brien, beam it into the fires! Destroy it!"

"No"

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 days ago

It is... Precious to me.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 44 points 2 days ago

"Captain, this seems like a gross violation of both the Prime Directive and the Temporal Prime Directive"

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Since the beam reduces the objects into particles and reconstructs it, doesn't it imply that it's able to destroy the ring in the first place? I guess it's necessary to get rid of the particles to make it so they can't re-build it again. But that does raise the question: Would the ability to reconstruct the ring affect one the same way the ring itself would? Or does the ring need to exist to exert its power?

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

nope. it simply wouldn't be able to get a lock.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

conversely if they are able to transport it, the act of disassembling it would unmake the spirit sauron poured into it, being remade somewhere else will not have the same ...sparkle.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

First, I agree with all of the above: within existing lore it seems obvious that the transporter wouldn't be able to transport the one ring for several reasons having to do with magic.

But also, this is just a reminder that I think the transporters in Star Trek are so narratively uninteresting. I like Trek, but pretty much in spite of the tech writing. The degree of magic in their technology just does nothing for me. I wish we had more fiction that was like a cross between Star Trek and The Expanse.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

So transporting it should remove any magic

[–] CUmush@fedia.io 16 points 2 days ago

better flush the pattern buffer a couple of times just to be sure

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wouldn't this violate the prime directive? Or if the captain fucks an elf is it ok then?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Starfleet makes an exception for elf romance.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's more of a prime suggestion

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

What do you think the Elven ships are?

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Depending on how far it was to Mt Doom, they totally would've searched for a scifi way to destroy the ring first. Probably involving reversing polarity and inverting tachyons.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Trois would be too exposed to the influence of the ring. If she got a hold of it there's a real chance they'd fail miserably even with teleporters.

[–] otherbarry@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Eject the core!

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't they have some device that can conduct heat as hot as mt doom?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the books they pretty much confirm it takes more than just heat to destroy the One Ring.

Good forges burn hotter than lava, and dragonfire even hotter still, yet Gandalf said that the biggest, baddest dragon who ever lived Ancalagon the Black (who makes Smaug look like a whimpy little butterfly in comparison) wouldn't be able to harm the One Ring.

It's the magical tie to Orodruin/Mount Doom that allows for its destruction.

and dragonfire even hotter still, yet Gandalf said that the biggest, baddest dragon who ever lived Ancalagon the Black (who makes Smaug look like a whimpy little butterfly in comparison) wouldn't be able to harm the One Ring

I don't remember this. Where was this mentioned? Council of Elrond?

[–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

True, the matter-antimatter reaction in a warp core would probably do the trick

[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Captain, scanners detect a silver ship with a bright light beacon approaching