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[–] TronNerd82@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

Don't worry, soon enough someone will figure out how to install Gentoo on it, and then you can have a headache every time you compile packages.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 23 hours ago

"I will always remember you... MEMORIES DELETED."

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago

How long till Apple photos inserts iPods into the background of your favourite childhood photos?

"Subscribe to premium to (temporarily) remove branding from your family memories!"

[–] illi@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a plot point in one Stargate episode. It was a bit less melevolent but still scary

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been meaning to do a rewatch, what episode (a vague description I could look up myself is enough).

[–] illi@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Looked it up for you. It's season 7, episode 5 - Revisions

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 135 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The joke is that something Elon's companies make actually works reliably.

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 58 points 2 days ago

The joke is also that the burning car was a Tesla, and if Elon could, he'd push a patch to copy/paste his face onto any memories of firefighters found in a Neuralink customer's brain

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I was gonna say Tesla but he actually bought that company, and it doesn't do as well anymore

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lol that's funny! No one would actually do that to another person! We are completely safe because this degree of selfishness does not exist, that's why I can laugh at it!

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Found the implanted.

[–] QueenHawlSera@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd be on board with Neuralink.... if Musk wasn't behind it.

Think I"ll wait for an open source brain chip

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is a really interesting, very scary technology that requires a solid institutional foundation to provide trust. Musk degrades trust, he doesn't build it.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

His maga fanboys would ram a rusty nail into their skull if he tells them it's the hot new shit.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Say that louder so he can hear.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Sounds like he doesn't need to give them neuralink, then.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd even trust a fully local open source one.

The issues about trusting hardware and software development tools all lead to problems here.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah if a bug or a hardware failure can make me see nightmare spiders everywhere or send a signal to my pain centers, that's a permanent no.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, basically IRL plot of Snow Crash.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I think you people are vastly overestimating how much we actually know about the brain or severely underestimating how freaking complex it is.

The "you" reading this right now, is a fucking stack of six A4 sized sheets, each one nanometers thick, and crumpled into something which, by all appearances, looks to an external observer as an oversized walnut seed, cooled and maintained by a network of 400 miles capillaries, and isolated from the world by the blood brain barrier, which can only be described as a fucking miracle.

No. No one is going to be implanting any memories soon

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe memories are actually really simple. Like the words on a screen. An arrangement of symbols, then a boatload of meaning and interpretation and rationalization. So all you need to do to make memories is to insert a few words. The brain's "memory interpreter" does the rest of the work.

For example, we insert the words "brother appears". Then, for the "new memory", we reference your memories of your brother. His appearance and the sound of his voice. Then we contrive a narrative explaining why "brother" is at this place and time. Etc. Voila! You now have a memory of your brother standing there saying some stuff.

So to make a memory, it wouldn't require a grand delicate manipulation of brainstuff. Just a simple thing.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

Memory and simple are words that you can only read when saying "memory IS NOT simple"

For fucks sake, our body stores memories for preferences in our literal guts

Memory is a lot of things except simple

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AI is better at recognizing patterns than we are. The brain may be unfathomable to us, but technology already exists which could recognize the signals in your brain that represent memories and reproduce or alter them.

Neuralink and similar devices are being used right now, today, to record the thoughts of animals. The first neuralink patient is alive and well, meaning it's already being used on humans.

Do you really think this technology won't exist in our lifetime?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Do you really think this technology won’t exist in our lifetime?

Yes, absolutely. What you're describing is AGI. If an AI could untangle engrams from branched clusters of extremely plastic neurons, it could understand and improve it's own thinking. It would actually be self aware before it could untangle the mess that our brains are. And I don't see AGI happening with our current material and resource constraints before I die. Seeing brain regions being active and de-novo engram implantation is about as close as an LLM is to AGI.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It is as you say, the scale doesn't even exist at this point

Even the recent fly brain mapping, enhanced with AI, had to take a destructive approach to map a half a milligram brain and these people are thinking matrix reloaded already

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Respectfully, this sounds like opinion and doubt rather than a credibly timeline. Other than rattling off industry terms the only support you've given your argument is "I don't see AGI happening". You've collected an impressive shopping basket of buzz words but done little to dissuade me or the engineers developing this technology that it won't be ready within a lifetime. Stay tuned.

Oh, and "its own thinking" not "it's own thinking". His, hers, its.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your extrapolation has about as much support. I don't really know what bothers you about the vocabulary I used but I can say I don't play much attention to punctuation marks when inputting text with a swipe keyboard on my phone.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"pay much attention" not "play". I'd be more careful with that keyboard if I were you. Wouldn't want to lose any credibility.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought I made it clear enough I didn't give a shit.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But you expect us to care about your opinion? Be correct and be nice or you won't get to finish the discussion. It's like a recipe, you have to do the work to get the product.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you primarily engage in typos versus ideas I don't particularly consider you worth discussing anything with anyway.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -1 points 1 day ago

It's been fun.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being 70-80 years old sucks. My condolences. We'll mess around with AGI when you're gone and I'll think about you

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haha bro thinks the AGI will not be messing around with him LMAO 🤣

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Ants vs pest control kind of thing.

It's like comparing amoebas messing with us while we mess with them

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Companies are constantly being called out for selling user data, imagine the shit that will come out if this shit goes mainstream. Then multiple that but all the stories about a Tesla going rogue and you pretty much end up with the worst possible idea ever.