I’m so tired of web engine based apps
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My company has teams and slack and IT wants to switch to all teams. The thread where they announced this had to be locked. :D I don't know how a trillion dollar company can't get this right. Worst yet the bundle that shit with everything and overworked IT depts pick it by default.
Disney?
I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter...
Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?
Use the browser version in Edge. That and outlook are the only two things I'm using that browser for, and it works great. The standalone software is an utter disaster.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Mega corporations that only hire contract workers with no morale or investment in the long term success of the company (because the majority of their efforts are purely to appear shareholders) are not equipped with the means to put out decent products.
Passion, dedication, investment in workers, and long term talent are what create remarkable pieces of software. Microsoft has none of this because these things are incompatible with the directives of infinite growth shareholder appeasement. Want extra time for QA? nope, that would reduce profits. Want to pay higher salaries to attract better talent? Nope, that would reduce profits. Want to adequately reward employees in ways they actually connect with like raises and bonuses? Nope, that would cut into the boss' annual bonus and he needs his new vacation home more than we need to afford rent.
There is an optimal level of profit chasing and company size within which excellent software can be produced, and Microsoft exceeded those thresholds years ago. There is also an optimal phase of capitalism that is conducive to quality innovation and development, and we're well past it.
web version is not as bad as the official client tbf
( even on Windows i was using sth called teams-for-linux (despite the name its actually cross platform) which is an Electron wrapper around ms teams, bc the official client was crashing/freezing the windows audio service somehow)
What is crazy is that Mac version is more stable than windows in my experience. Still shit, though
lmao, based. Discord too.
Based and tech pilled
Outlook 2010 is better than this new office 365 shit too.
You don't say.
This is your fault!
I forgot my username was that ngl. Yes, I, the Linux user broke Microsoft teams.
I have an office account for work. I don’t happen upon the troubles people report here. I couldn’t leave MS as I basically use all their stuff for work (and so do the several other hundreds of employees here). But teams does work well: texting, videocalls with 100s of participants, recording meetings, file repositories
I use teams every day. My only gripe recently is the messages like “look the wonderful things we did to improve it” that I didn’t need and will probably never use, but I press the little X don’t know don’t care
I feel similarly. I work in an office that's heavily invested in Microsoft for everything and when you use Microsoft everything Teams fits in really nicely with great outlook integration, Microsoft Loop integration, etc. and the experience on Teams is fine
Also the surveys after eveey call. Drives me crazy. And the weird file editor, never edit PowerPoint slides in Teams.
And the way it absolutely freaks out when the computer is in standby.
You put more effort into this post than M$ did to their product
Thanks, your bill is in the mail.
I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it's still awful!
yes
The "new" outlook is also god awful. I'd rather use the OWA.
It's the worst and has been running like total crap for years. Even Skype for business worked better. Luckily it is better than Cisco Jabber or Webex.
My boss puts it best. WebEx for Calling, Zoom for Meetings and Teams for Collaboration (the actual Teams function).
I used Webex at my last job, it was pretty decent.
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and record this meeting. Please speak up if you object. Because we've provided so much psychological safety that there will surely be no judgement or fear of reprisal for those with any hesitation to swim in line with the corporate current. We're also going to share files in this chat that you'll have to catalogue and remember - so when someone refers to a nondescript file shared 3 weeks ago you'll be forced to know exactly which chat and file you're referring to. Also, put yourself on video. We appreciate face to face communication.
That's not really Teams fault though. Sounds more like a team issue than a Teams issue.
The work of the devil
Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn't let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.
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I dont know.. SharePoint has pissed me the hell off too, its a close one
I refuse to use that piece of crap. We have to use MS at work and they gave us free 10 TB with our volume license, and the only thing on it are documents saved by accident because it set itself up as default save as location on some clients without being asked for. Utter garbage.
Fun fact, teams backend is sharepoint. It's just a fancy wrapper on top 🤡
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Out of curiosity are any similar products actually good? My company uses Webex and frankly I'd rather use teams.
Zoom would be nice if they stopped pushing the AI crap and didn’t randomize functionality and button placement every other upgrade. The annotation tool is really great when it decides to show up.
Slack for text chat, zoom for video calls
We used to use Slack + Zoom and had a much better experience than Teams.
Slack is better than Teams IMO, but I don't know if I'd call it "good."
Zulip is better than slack
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