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Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.

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[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (4 children)

No knock on Proton, but there have been a lot of "lifetime membership" deals these last few years that wind up forgotten after corporate decides number should go up.
I'll consider "lifetime payments" when corpos offer a legal contract specifying what their remedy will be when "lifetime" winds up meaning "when corporate loses interest".

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 11 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I might consider this if it came with VPN too but this doesn't really seem worth it. I still remember my "lifetime" LogMeIn licenses...

[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For the most part this is how it works. One notable exception is I am now 14 years into my lifetime plex pass

My lifetime jetbrains, lifetime Alfred both gone, countless small apps too. Lifetime unraid I had to convert once after 10 years but is stable now

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago

Proton already does a lot of shady marketing crap so I would be very dubious of such an offer. This may also come before they just offer those additions in the free version, since it probably does not sell well on its own.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Happened to me with the Lemmy app Bean except the dev vanished.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, lifetime offers often come in a last ditch effort to milk customers for a dying product.

[–] retro@infosec.pub 13 points 6 days ago

For those wondering, the cost is $199 for Pass Lifetime.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I get this as part of my Ultimate plan and I must say that SimpleLogin has been the most pleasant surprise. It's fantastic.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 days ago

I love simplelogin (and Firefox relay, which I used before I got a proton plan). One of the best things is that I recently changed what my main email address was, and on day 1 I changed where they get forwarded and bam, hundreds of sites and accounts are now pointing at the new email.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 11 points 6 days ago

“Forever” probably means about five years.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty cool. I think that means Pass is cheap AF for them run to consider doing this worth it. Or maybe it is more like a loss-leader like Costco's 1$ hotdogs to get people in their ecosystem

Both. Passwords take up nearly no storage and it's mainly a sync service. Plus if people start to use your other projects they basically wind up paying for it anyway.

No criticism here. I love proton. Great company and great products.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I want to like apps like Proton Pass, but they focus too much on all or nothing. If Proton Pass was a local-first password store that then you could pay to have your passwords synced automatically, it would be worth considering.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It does work offline AFAIK. What does it not do that you want it to do?

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It caches your online data. It still has to connect online to a Proton account first and there are limitations in its functionality for nonpaid users beyond cloud synchronization.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What's the difference between caching online data and "local first"?

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Ahh, I thought it was something for the email side...durn

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 1 points 6 days ago

Interesting concept.