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It's not a crazier idea than most of Kennedy's. Someone should do a study. Or make one up, nobody checks anymore.

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[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

The impact of micro plastics cannot be studied because there is no control group. Hard to say what microplastics do to the human brain when the researchers might find it hard to form a group without brain plastic

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

Couldn't you still study populations with more or less plastic, even if "zero plastic" cant be found? Or is the amount of it more or less even across groups?

[–] Neuromancer49@midwest.social 5 points 5 days ago

Throwing in my $0.02, a correlation study is technically an option, where you look at differences as microplastics increase in concentration. But. my instinct is you would see some really unfortunate covariance - that is, another variable that increases (or decreases) at the same time as microplastics and is known to impact your variable of interest, e.g. socioeconomic status.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Would have to use historical samples

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The stressors and demands on people a single generation separate are so vastly different that it would not work.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't work in a serious scientific study, no. You're absolutely correct. But since we're setting the bar of inquiry at Kennedy levels...?

I'm just trying to put aside my despair for a few minutes.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I am having to admit that human kindness and empathy only extends to one and theirs and to all others only competition and hate, that is the hallmark of humanity. The greatest trick ever performed was convincing anyone that it was ever not thus.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's probably doing all sorts of bad shit including lowering intelligence in general.

Oh guess what else lowers intelligence: Extreme heat and humidity!

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think microplastics are having that effect.

It could just as likely be the decrease in airborne Lead following the removal of Lead Paint and TetraEthyl Lead in Petrol has caused people to be much more aggressive.

They still have the brain damage from growing up breathing in heavy metals, but no longer have the soporific effect of heavy metals.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Oh now that's a theory to conjure with!

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago

I would like to think so, but humans historically have done some really uncomfortable shit ages before plastic turned up.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hate to break this to you but this shit level of empathy has been with humans for thousands of years. This is not a new phenomenon. It's not caused by microplastics.

What is new is empowering those without empathy to decide world leaders that have an obscene amount of power. That's a relatively new development for humanity.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Honestly, that's been around forever too, whether by votes or force of arms... Come to think of it, it's mostly the force of wealth and always has been.

The love of money is the root of all evil etc

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Probably. There has to be something going on, right? Microplastics are as good a guess as anything else.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Y'all really gonna come up with every excuse for the DNC being garbage?

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Regardless of how shitty the DNC is, it seems to defy logic that anyone could support Trump, and yet half of the US does. Because of that, I can see why someone might start thinking there must be some sort of external cause or something.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone -1 points 4 days ago

US self-entitlement.

the land of the free has always had a “more important than every other country” mindset which has infected their citizens with the same selfish mindset.

McCarthyism and subsequent witch-hunts have resulted in such an anti-socialist zeitgeist that it has morphed into an anti-social zeitgeist where any empathy for any other person is seen not only as a weakness, but as also being “Un-murikan”.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Organophosphates

Plastics probably affect hormones though.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why empathy specifically? If it causes damage, then it's probably global

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I'm "trying" to link it to the recent rise of fascism. And general breakdown of society.

You have a point though, a rise in stupidity is part and parcel of the same phenomenon.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, we've seen plenty of authoritarianism and facism before plastic was invented, so that seems like a dubious notion

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

That's why this is in showerthoughts rather than science

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

recent rise of fascism

I'd look for the reasons to back when fascism has risen in the first place in early 20th century