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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, we know you want Donald Trump elected. He won't be. Move on.

I'd add that I disagree with the premise of the article. I don't see a contradiction between wanting the suffering happening to innocent Gazans to end on the one hand, while generally being supporting of Israel's right to defend itself as a country on the other hand (e.g. from Russia, if they were to go even crazier and decide that nuking Israel to distract the West from supporting Ukraine was a good idea).

And nuance is tough to do in a campaign ad, so emphasis the part of the message that resonates with the target voters is not hypocrisy at all, not if both messages are indeed consistent with your underlying platform.

As far as I know, this is indeed the case - Harris supports an immediate ceasefire in Gaza in exchange for the return of the remaining hostages, along with an eventual two state solution. I don't see how that contradicts either message above, if it were possible to implement. (It's not because Israel under Netanyahu won't go along with it, but, I mean, if it were.)

Remember, there are Israelis who live in Israel, who want an immediate ceasefire, as per https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/24/israel-immediate-ceasefire-open-letter and https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/some-300-left-wing-activists-protests-genocide-in-gaza-at-tel-avivs-habima-square/ - and Harris's position on this appears to be the same as, or at least very similar to, theirs.