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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 114 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Wait… GOP is declaring victory on Tuesday, while also being the impetus behind assuring that the full results won’t be available until later in the week… at the earliest?

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's a feature, not a bug.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Same as "stop the count" which is essentially forcing mail-in votes (mostly dems) to be registered after the election closes, and whining that votes are still being registered after it closes.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

1)Early voting typically heavily favors democrats.

2)Pass laws that make it so you cant count early/mail in ballots before election day.

3)Point at the big dump of democratic votes on election day from the mail in/early ballots finally being counted

4)scream "FRAUD" at the scenario you created to try and create the appearance of impropriety, for the explicit purpose of allowing you to cry fraud.

Republican voting strategy for the past 3 elections.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

STOP THE VOTE

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is more of a "you never go full retard" moment

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

this guy is fucking spot-on.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Remember what happened to election denial in 2020. It failed. Multiple things will ensure it fails again:

  • Overwhelming votes for Harris, Trump's numbers nowhere close.
  • Investigations confirming as before that no fraud occurred.
  • MAGA election lawsuits failing as before - last time they went 0 for 43.
  • More prominent Republicans joining their colleagues to denounce Trump.

MAGA was wrong then and they're wrong now. When the dust settles they'll fail again.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, they want weeks of no official result being declared, during which they say Trump definitely won, so that when the final result comes in, if it’s Harris, they can say Democrats are trying to overturn the election

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

No one ever accused the magabrainz of being logical.

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 98 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm a little surprised he hasn't already declared victory.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

he basically has. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-election-10-29-24/card/trump-accuses-democrats-of-cheating-already-though-ballots-haven-t-been-counted-WpCMv4w0ten14KiE5sgQ.

ALLENTOWN, Pa.—Republican Donald Trump accused Democrats of conspiring to steal the election at his Pennsylvania rally on Tuesday, though ballots haven’t yet been counted. He also claimed that he is already winning the election, based on early voting data, which can show ballots returned by party affiliation and gender, not how the individual voted. “We’re leading in every single swing state,” Trump said to cheers. The arena, which can fit about 10,000 people, is mostly full.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

is mostly full.

which seat were they counting?

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

But let’s keep giving him headlines.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 48 points 2 weeks ago

That’s why we ALL need to vote. No excuses, just do your minimum civic duty and vote, if only to cover the margin of shenanigans that the GOP is counting on to cause trouble.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 45 points 2 weeks ago

dude he's been declaring victory for 4 fucking years. none of what he's going to do will be new

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There will also be lawsuits. Wanna bet how long before someone gets hurt after Harris wins?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

He’s already suing in Pennsylvania

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The richest man in the world is first in line for the guillotines.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure the first will be a thief and scoundrel, (not an aristocrat) just like the last time.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

For a while now, the story on the right has been that Trump is cruising to victory and that he’s way ahead. They say that the Harris campaign has collapsed and the only way they can win the election is by stealing it. Now, that’s just as untrue as it was four years ago but that hasn’t stopped Trump from telling the same lies on the campaign trail this year.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why do you think he didn't really campaign as much this time. The only thing he will accept is a win. No matter what happens and no matter the difference ~~is~~ in a Kamala win, he'll claim they cheated.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because he's very old, unhealthy, and tired.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Why not both? He's probably surrounded by scum and villainy just like before - Stone and Bannon and other disgusting garbage people - that tell him they'll be ensuring a "win" even if he doesn't actually win.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Anyone see "A Storm Foretold"? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22306998/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

I don't know that Kamala will win or not, but when Biden actually did win in 2020, it was plain as day that the fascists were going to try something to steal it away...this time around, I think Biden's admin should plan a few "Presidential acts" against some very key players that are still running around free.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I just learned last night that there's a pattern called the "red mirage", apparently well known but new to me, that happens reliably on US national election nights. Smaller counties with fewer people finish their vote counts sooner than larger counties, so they report earlier. Since more Republicans live in low-population areas and more Democrats live in denser urban areas, this means a wave of republican votes comes in early, creating what's called the "red mirage", followed by a wave of democratic votes. This makes Republican candidates look like they're ahead.

Trump counted on this in 2020 and probably in 2016. When he announces an early victory while the "red mirage" is still happening (assuming it even does this time) many of his followers will call it a night. When they hear Harris has won it will reinforce Trump's lie, because in their minds they already "saw" him win.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That article repeated itself like every other paragraph. But I really can't believe we are here again. This is absolutely shameful.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's called modern journalism, sweaty. Gotta get that word count.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sweat shaming, never did I think this would transpire here…

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sweat shaming, never did I think this would perspire here…

FTFY

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Question: I thought to 'transpire' could mean 'shedding moisture' and/or 'things that happened or are revealed'

English is not my first language though so there's that

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Serious mode for a moment: transpire typically means "to happen" or "to occur". The "to shed moisture or vapor" definition is now usually limited to discussions about plants (moisture) or the soul when speaking of death in a figurative manner.

Perspire means "to shed matter" but is most commonly used in reference to sweating. The reason that the term referring to "matter" as opposed to the one referring to moisture is preferred is likely due to the salt content in sweat.

Both words share the Latin base for "to breathe", spirare, which is also where we get expire, aspire, conspire, and even spirit.

Back to the joke: you were correct with the way you used transpire in your reply. I "miscorrected" it to make a pun that tied it back to sweat.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both words share the Latin base for "to breathe", spirare, which is also where we get expire, aspire, conspire, and even spirit

And, presumably, 'respire'/'respiration'?

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yup! Spirare is the Latin root of a lot of words, most likely due to how pneuma was believed to be the human soul. Breath and soul were one and the same, so it shows up in a lot of places.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the extensive, informative and complete reply! Very helpful in trying to understand the nuances of the English language.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've never heard of transpire being used for the first definition. Perspiration is the act of sweating, and it comes from Latin I think? High school was so long ago.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks! I think @lemonmelon explained it well. Seems I was skirting the definition by a whisker and got away with it but still failed as a joke or pun should be understandable without having to pull out a Latin dictionary 😀

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I'm shocked, just shocked i tell you. It's not like they've been saying this is what they're going to do for literally months.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Give us some quick blue swings then, to shut him up.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 4 points 2 weeks ago

On a lighter note, just discovered this series of animated videos of real trump recordings. https://youtu.be/Ug51ybcGhiw?feature=shared

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Omg, what?!