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I only just learned today that, when someone from one instance gets banned from another instance, that person not only is no longer able to interact with the second instance, but people from the second instance actually can't see anything the person said from the moment they got banned even though they're still there. I'm disappointed to learn all my friends who got banned from my instance are still saying stuff and nobody told me, making it more akin to an instance forcing everyone to block them (because individuals blocking each other the same way work like this). And this is coming from the person who has fantasized about universalization of federation.

What's something about the fediverse that was most recently unobscured but that you know now?

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Upvotes and downvotes are not private. You may have to jump through a few hoops to see the information, but user IDs are attached to every upvote and downvote sent across the platform.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

I DECLARE DOWNVOTE. LET IT BE KNOWN I DOWNVOTED THIS!

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

So people could see that JoeBiden42 or DonTrump46 uplemmied a yaoi post?

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think i heard somewhere that a request to delete content of yours is passed from instance to instance. It can be ignored too by specific instances I believe.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Something to consider is that any given instance can be a bad actor and do whatever the hell they want.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 points 2 weeks ago

That's good to keep in mind with everything you send out to the internet.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Possibly this was me yesterday.

While such requests could be intentionally ignored, I’m not of aware of a case where any actually have been. I can’t see why anyone would, and going rogue like that is liable to get your instance defederated.

[–] toototabon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How to monitor which instances ignored the request?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would it need to be monitored? I can’t think of a reason that an instance would not want to honor them, and if they were to, someone would eventually notice and complain. I don’t see a value in monitoring/policing it.

[–] toototabon@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Perhaps «monitoring» was too strong of a word...

someone would eventually notice and complain.

I'll rephrase: if a layperson wanted to check if an instance is not following through, how could they confirm it?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If a comment were removed from instance A, you could go look at the same post on instance B and see whether the comment is also removed there. You don’t need a user account on either instance to do this.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Would be neat to have a site take in a Url for a post/comment and display a list of top instances or something stating whether it's visible there or not.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In most lemmy instances, the default feed is a mix of that instance's and popular threads from other instances. Participating in such a thread that you find spontaneously is therefore not anything resembling "brigading," even if other people on your instance also see it spontaneously and participate.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same stuff happened on Reddit. Threads would get popular and hit r/all, people would say they were being brigaded.

[–] do_not_pm_me@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was banned from a community on Reddit for brigading once, but I had found the thread on my own and participated.

I don’t know if they actually thought I was brigading or if they just didn’t agree with me. Probably both.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 10 points 2 weeks ago

I don't have anything especially helpful to share, but maybe it's not so widely known that anyone can run their own ActivityPub instance and avoid some of the collateral damage caused by other admins.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a very Lemmy-specific observation that isn't strictly true of other ActivityPub federated services.

You should also get off of ML if you don't like being affected by terrible admin decisions.