Oh yeah, well were you there 4.5 billion years ago to see this so-called uranium 238?!?
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I mean, the existence of lead doesn't necessarily prove the age of the earth so much as that those elements have existed for that long.
HOWEVER -- you're basically guaranteed to find lead in uranium deposits found around the earth, and the ratio of lead/uranium is how we calculated the 4.6 billion years.
Uranium is formed in Neutron stars or Supernova, so at the very least - the uranium found on earth itself is 4.6 billion years old. Whether "Earth" was "Earth" back then, who knows. This could be pre-moon? Could be before the earth even cooled down to have a solid outer layer? So the estimate is bound to be off by a little...
Just not by 4.5 billion years.
I'm pretty sure just soap has been around for more than 4.5k years and that means civilization too. So even if you do some backflips in justification here, there's no way you get 4k.
is this even a real conversation? its just circles and rectangles
Lead 204 is entirely primordial and the other isotopes found on earth would be found at roughly the same concentration were all of the lead on earth primordial. It's the excess ratios of the other isotopes of lead that can be attributed to radioactive decay. That is a substantial proportion of the lead on earth, but to say the "existence of lead" is proof of the age of the earth is entirely incorrect.
destroy all religion for the sake of humanity
There's evidence of human civilization and agriculture going back at least 10,000 years. You have to be extremely willfully ignorant to think the earth is only 4,000 years old. Hell the pyramid of Giza is older than that.
You have to be extremely willfully ignorant to think the earth is only 4,000 years old.
The Bible itself makes it obvious that the 4,000 year old thing is a lie.
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There’s bread from 14,000 years ago
Look I don't like them either, but you can't refer to crusty bishops that way
eat lead? this guy probably has already done that one
Probably not willingly. Republican States are often horrible at updating infrastructure, and due to the lack of a well educated population, they don't suffer much repercussion for that. Very high chance they grew up with or still have lead pipes.
Is decay the only way to get lead? I mean if uranium gets synthesized can't lead get made as well?
Radioactive decay is not the only way to make lead, and lead is produced in much greater abundance than uranium.
The part that's missing in the post is in looking specifically at uranium deposits and making assumptions about the initial composition of the deposits, since the crystalline structure excludes lead when the crystals form. So if you detect lead contained within zircon, it is assumed to be the product of radioactive decay.
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Yeah this doesn’t do squat to prove or disprove anything to these nutters.
I’ve done the same with a variety of other things and you will get told the same thing:
God put it here.
Thing is you cannot argue with the above statement because it falls into that sort of argument you used to have when you were a child when the other kid would say ‘Nyah! Last word!!’ or ‘I can’t hear you!!’
But I take everything literally, other than when its inconvenient
If uranium-238 can be Fused in a star why couldn’t lead be Fused directly and in tern all the elements in between.
It does take a pretty long time to get a supernova if you're starting from scratch.
nO ThAT’s jUSt gOD tEStiNg yOuR FAiTh
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Young earth creationists make up new element called "creationite" from which all elements came from, thereby filling in the radioactive decay plot hole in their narrative.
The tragedy is that humans aren't convinced to change their minds by facts like this. They're convinced by good stories from their friends and family.
And Facebook, but I'm just repeating what you said, aren't I?
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