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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 83 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Meh, the global ecosystem is fucked anyway. Might as well trim out the especially annoying bits and enjoy some relative comfort on our way to extinction. If doing so accelerates our downfall a bit, that's a fair trade.

I say it's worth the risk.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 53 points 1 month ago (4 children)

But unfortunately, hunting nazis is still illegal.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

But not immoral!

Don't let the law stop you from doing what's right.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 8 points 1 month ago

Ah... (Homer Simpson meme) so far.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Just gotta figure out how to turn their proboscis inside out with gene editing, make that an oral med, put it in a "supplement", and get marketing to sell it to them as a dick enhancer.

Make sure to label it "HOMEOPATHIC" and the government will leave you alone.

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[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Just do it with a car for the least amont of consequences.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This, we can't have only the bad parts of mass extinction

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Just a guess... they're probably a food source low in the chain. Disrupt the food chain and we're screwed.

https://www.britannica.com/story/what-purposes-do-mosquitoes-serve-in-ecosystems

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Well there's like 30 species and only 4 that hurt humans, so mosquitoes can stay, but those specific 4 can die off.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Even better, there's thousands of mosquito species, and only 4 that bit humans

Those 4 can fuck right off into extinction

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There's one specific species that causes malaria. Getting rid of that particular one would probably do more good than harm. Their place on the food chain can be filled in by others.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everything I've read suggests that mosquitoes aren't a primary food source for anything, and that their absence would be relatively easily adusted for by those creatures that do eat them. Still, that's a hell of a dice roll.

Edit: And apparently that may be wrong anyway.

For other animals—such as lizards, frogs, spiders, and other insects—adult mosquitoes are the primary food source.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I have argued for the same caution every single time this came up on Reddit, because I know of a dozen examples in history where we fucked up something similar.

I got downvoted every single time, across several posts over the years, because obviously the hive mind believes things will be different this time! The thing that males me confident it'll fail is I've never seen, and nobody's ever provided, an example where this type of ecological engineering has actually succeeded for the better.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The biggest reason it may be different this time is previously we were all like, "let's exterminate dogs," and it turns out dogs are important. This time is more like "let's exterminate pitbulls." There will still be plenty of mosquitos around if the plan is ever put into motion, we are only targeting a very small slice of them. That doesn't mean there won't be issues, it could well be just as big a mistake as all the previous times. But at least it is more likely to work out.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mosquitos aren't some special niche. Take out mosquitos and something else moves in to replace them, something that doesn't bite.

There's nothing that solely depends on mosquitos, and wouldn't prefer to eat other things which mosquitos may be suppressing by existing themselves.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago

Their eggs are a rich snack for fish. The reason they're a rich snack is because their mom sucked blood.

That said, we can probably kill off the one species that causes malaria. Other species will move into the gap.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funny how much (actual scientific) debate is around mosquito extinction event whilst we are well into a mass extinction event we caused (not to mention all the direct and systemic ecosystem eradication such as marshlands of all sorts).

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. If we're going to kill everything else, why not them?

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because then we will have a few years of being able to sit outside in peace before going outside and melting.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

And we as a species are such bastards that we would want them to melt, so it's all going according to plan.

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[–] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they researched this and found that literally no creature completely rely on mosquitos, and that if they were wiped out the power vaccum would be replaced by other small flying insects that are within the diets of the creatures that would otherwise eat mosquitoes. So yeah, there really isn't anything stopping us from wiping them out. I say do it, and just keep some in a lab just in case if fucks stuff up. Or maybe more reasonably just modify them so they can't suck human blood or pierce human skin, which I'm pretty sure we're also already capable of.

[–] MicrondeMMMMMMM@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Or maybe dont eradicate them? They've been here for millions of years why do we feel like their existence is worthless because they bother us, I say, prevent them from carrying diseases instead...

[–] Mordex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I’d say it’s more than just a bother. You’re spot on about preventing them from carrying and transmitting disease.

Though I’m perfectly okay not having bot flies around anymore… Another insect that could be considered a bother but we mostly destroyed their population.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you haven't seen Puss in Boots 2, do yourself a big favor and go see it.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On the surface this seems like it could be a running joke. A sequel to an 11 year old spinoff from Shrek 2. Ridiculous that they came out with such a good film.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

It has one of the best on-screen depictions of a panic attack that I've ever seen, which I wasn't expecting

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[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a great movie, it brought me to tears, I highly recommend it.

I'm also just a sucker for Death depictions

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

PLEASE do cockroaches next. I refuse to believe those monstrosities are capable of good, even tangentially.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If cockroaches went extinct, there would actually be some pretty significant effects on ecosystems. They’re not just pests; they play a crucial role as decomposers. Cockroaches help break down dead organic matter—stuff like leaves, wood, and even dead animals. Without them, you’d start to see a buildup of this kind of waste, and the whole process of nutrient recycling would slow down. This matters because a lot of plants rely on nutrients that get released when organic material decomposes. If that process stalls, it could disrupt plant growth and soil health.

Plus, cockroaches are food for a ton of animals—birds, reptiles, small mammals, and other insects all rely on them. If they disappeared, it would mess with food chains, potentially leading to population drops in species that depend on them. And let’s not forget, cockroaches are also tied into the microbial world. They carry microorganisms that help break down certain materials, so their extinction could mess with those processes too.

So yeah, it’s easy to think the world would be better without them because they’re gross, but in reality, ecosystems would take a pretty big hit if cockroaches went extinct overnight.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah tbh cockroaches get a pass, mosquitoes are an existential threat to our species.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

A bit of an exaggeration but fuck em.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Thanks for this. As much as I hate them, my daughter and I were recently trying to find whether they serve any purpose besides occasionally ruining my life.

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[–] Username02@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The mosquito we see around us are invasive species that we humans brought along as we migrate across the continent. Make sense if their extinction bring neglectable impact to the local ecosystem. They aren't supposed to be there to begin with.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

There is a species of mosquito that is a prolific pollinator, one of them for blueberries.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

As if human care about future consequences.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans have already caused so many species to go extinct.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Doing it on purpose for self defense seems less bad to me than indiscriminately because we want to be more comfortable but maybe that's a meaningless distinction.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, this idea scares me.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought they just didn’t breed in my habitat last time I moved— turns out they can breed here but they’re quite tightly managed.

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Mosquitos are pollinators. And in some parts of the world that have extreme seasons that can't sustain bees, they seem rather important to the ecosystem.

Instead of eradicating them, genetically engineering away the numbing in their saliva that causes the allergic reaction in humans could be a solution.

I'll trade a couple weeks of itchy bites for a briefly painful bite any day.

Sure, humans would kill them instantly on feeling the bite, but most animals are not capable of that. Their populations would be fine.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You think people want to extinguish mosquitoes because they bite is annoying?!

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