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[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Good timing honestly. The only reason I kept a Windows machine around was for gaming. Now we have much better support across the board.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sadly it is not about learning Linux but getting the software you use on a daily basis natively supported by the OS, that is why Linux is still not there for me yet.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (12 children)

What do you use on a daily basis that's not supported? I see this kind of comment all the time and nobody wants to tell me!

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Its almost always tools and programs used in their professional life. The 365 suite, adobe suite, fusion 360, simulation programs, ...

Yes i know there are free or alternative options, but they are never as good or powerful as the full on suites that have existed since the dawn of time.

Ive been running linux ( dual boot with windows ) on my work laptop for 9 months at this point and i love it. But sometimes, i do have to boot windows for one of the professional suite programs.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

If you have a large work budget, then Siemens NX (version 12 or less) runs on RHEL or SUSE.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

For me the 365 suite (including copilot) all works great inside Firefox on Mint. But I work in software so the other everyday stuff is pretty well available.

I assume some day I’ll need to boot back into windows for something, but it’s already Ben months.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair, but in the context of gaming I doubt there are that many people gaming on their work machine.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Depends, im a power user that does all kind of things on my pc. Gaming but also other workloads, so ill be dual booting with linux as my main soon anyway.
But for pure gaming, ye linux might do depending on the games

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I've been spoiled because most of the heavier workloads I do is all programming related and Linux tends to be better there.

I have had issues with Autodesk products, but I'm able to get 99% of what I need with freecad.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Apart from the many compatibility issues with all kinds of random games that can usually be fixed within an hour (but still cost me too much time), the biggest one is specific stuff like playing Assetto Corsa with mods in VR using a Logitech wheel. It's already a pretty hefty stack of things to keep working on Windows, but on Linux I cannot even get AC to start so I have no idea whether the rest will work.

I'm already fighting computers all day. When I get home tired the last thing I want to do is to fight the computer even more. I just want a game to start without issue. Even on my Steam deck I have regular hard crashes of the system in multiple games, and my PC is probably less supported due to the more random set of packages installed

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I can tell you my issues, so far.

Logitech G13 left hand kb - no drivers, Steam VR library 20 some of 90 some games come up in steam, Microsoft intellipoint trackball, only left, right, and wheel work but cannot program the other 2 buttons, no BlueStacks - simple to use phone emulator.

Haven't gotten any further as if VR library is not available there is no point getting rid of windows, and I really want to get rid of windows. I just don't have the drive I used to, to fix, look up hints, tinker with my os and reinstall new ones. It has to just work. I have Kubuntu installed on a 4tb sata ssd, rtx 4070ti super, Ryzen 7 3800, 32gb ram. In the last month steam VR made some strides as setting up was as seamless as windows, but as I stated I am missing 2/3 of my VR library

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, my SteamVR library is why I keep a Windows virtual machine around.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I have faith steam will continue to improve proton to the point of "it just works". As well, any new purchases of hardware will be Linux ready.

I must say Linux HAS gotten more user friendly over the last 20/30 years, and the GUIs have gotten more stable. My first Linux distro was red hat enterprise Linux, and then I hopped around to fedora, then mandrake and mandriva, a buddy suggested slack at one point, then I found Ubuntu, and now Kubuntu, I prefer the gnome environment but kde plasma seems to work better. Wayland is also long over due.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

My biggest hangup is Fusion360. Supposedly someone figured out how to get it working but It's not officially supported and I haven't had time to test it.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Microsoft office suite? Adobe, most DAWs. PCVR.

There are alternatives for some of these things. IMO libreoffice is good, but buggy compared to the MS office suite.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago

Basically "professional software" that isn't tech related.
There are fantastic alternatives that are (nearly) transparent for individual users.
There are BETTER alternatives for some software.
But working in a team/company that doesn't prioritise Linux accessibility is painful. And it's pain that people aren't paid to deal with to complete their actual workload.
MS has corporate by the balls.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

onlyoffice? it saldy uses chromium embedded framework tho.

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (3 children)

On my Windows 11 machine I just uninstalled Copilot via the normal app uninstall process. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I don't think it's tied into the OS in any fundamental way. I assume most debloating scripts include the step anyway.

Kinda crap that it's installed by default though.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

Gonna get to enjoy some reg edits on that machine then!

Edit: So I just looked at that machine that is set to take all new updates, and it doesn't look to be installed like it is for that guy in the video. However, it looks like this machine hasn't picked up 24H2 yet, which is strange as I thought it was meant to be worldwide now?

MS really can't make stuff easy.

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Just installed an update to 10 2 days ago to find that it had installed Copilot and put an icon for it on my taskbar. Stuff like this is why 10 will be my last version of Windows.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see what industries that handle sensitive data will do when Recall becomes an integrated part of Windows 11. They might have no choice but to migrate to Linux.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 43 points 3 days ago (8 children)

They will pay for enterprise licenses and be able to disable and delete it.

Only us plebs get whipped.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah because everyone knows once a company drops LTS the software becomes completely unusable!!!

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Lack of security updates should be a concern to you, yes.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The LSTC edition has a few more years in it... but I wouldn't do MASS in a GRAVE... ehr, I mean - fuck.

Look, just search for "MassGrave" on GitHub.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

doesnt the ltsc version target enterprises and stuff and you cant just use your home/pro license you need a whole diff license and many anticheats and steam will end support for 10 once it ends support

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...did you search "MassGrave"?

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh yeah ik but i meant legit ways

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LTSC is "only" available through an enterprise licensing through Microsoft or its partners, which means you can probably ask a company or organization for one of their volume keys, and will probably be the only Windows where you can permanently disable Recall...

Like seriously, I had problems disabling telemetry in Windows 10 Pro because it kept re-enabling them, but not in the LTSC version.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

ohhhh i thought you pay for it normally it kinda makes sense tho but yh

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