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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sadly it is not about learning Linux but getting the software you use on a daily basis natively supported by the OS, that is why Linux is still not there for me yet.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (7 children)

What do you use on a daily basis that's not supported? I see this kind of comment all the time and nobody wants to tell me!

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Its almost always tools and programs used in their professional life. The 365 suite, adobe suite, fusion 360, simulation programs, ...

Yes i know there are free or alternative options, but they are never as good or powerful as the full on suites that have existed since the dawn of time.

Ive been running linux ( dual boot with windows ) on my work laptop for 9 months at this point and i love it. But sometimes, i do have to boot windows for one of the professional suite programs.

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[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Microsoft office suite? Adobe, most DAWs. PCVR.

There are alternatives for some of these things. IMO libreoffice is good, but buggy compared to the MS office suite.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

Basically "professional software" that isn't tech related.
There are fantastic alternatives that are (nearly) transparent for individual users.
There are BETTER alternatives for some software.
But working in a team/company that doesn't prioritise Linux accessibility is painful. And it's pain that people aren't paid to deal with to complete their actual workload.
MS has corporate by the balls.

[–] Sarothazrom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I can tell you my issues, so far.

Logitech G13 left hand kb - no drivers, Steam VR library 20 some of 90 some games come up in steam, Microsoft intellipoint trackball, only left, right, and wheel work but cannot program the other 2 buttons, no BlueStacks - simple to use phone emulator.

Haven't gotten any further as if VR library is not available there is no point getting rid of windows, and I really want to get rid of windows. I just don't have the drive I used to, to fix, look up hints, tinker with my os and reinstall new ones. It has to just work. I have Kubuntu installed on a 4tb sata ssd, rtx 4070ti super, Ryzen 7 3800, 32gb ram. In the last month steam VR made some strides as setting up was as seamless as windows, but as I stated I am missing 2/3 of my VR library

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Poor hdr support is one for games and shows.

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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I use Figma (a UX design tool). It has browser support but I prefer the native app experience, I’ve seen there are Linux versions on GitHub but I heard they have some compatibility or performance issues sometimes and I need it to be 100% reliable as it is for work. I also use some Adobe products sporadically (Illustrator and Photoshop) FOSS software doesn’t make the cut for professional use, even if they do nearly the same, since you need standard industry tools.

I also like gaming and even though Linux is almost there (I love my Steam Deck) I see so many people struggling here and there and I really don’t feel like tinkering, I already tinker enough on Windows to get my games working properly.

But all in all I’m still interested in Linux and keeping an eye on it and might pull the trigger some day even if is only for personal use/tinkering :)

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

My biggest hangup is Fusion360. Supposedly someone figured out how to get it working but It's not officially supported and I haven't had time to test it.

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

On my Windows 11 machine I just uninstalled Copilot via the normal app uninstall process. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I don't think it's tied into the OS in any fundamental way. I assume most debloating scripts include the step anyway.

Kinda crap that it's installed by default though.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Gonna get to enjoy some reg edits on that machine then!

Edit: So I just looked at that machine that is set to take all new updates, and it doesn't look to be installed like it is for that guy in the video. However, it looks like this machine hasn't picked up 24H2 yet, which is strange as I thought it was meant to be worldwide now?

MS really can't make stuff easy.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Windows users trying to make their adware delivery platform strapped to a program loader usable (I can install my operating system faster then they can install a program)

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'm just happy I only need to use it on one PC ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you have any anti-cheat software on your PC, then the update is paused. Basically because it fucks it up.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

With anti-cheat being one of the major things causing games to be Windows dependant, that is hilarious.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

I didn't even bother. On the machines I have with Win 11 it's either not installed or functional but entirely optional. That whole recall feature never got implemented and honestly at this point I don't know if it'll ever be.

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Just installed an update to 10 2 days ago to find that it had installed Copilot and put an icon for it on my taskbar. Stuff like this is why 10 will be my last version of Windows.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see what industries that handle sensitive data will do when Recall becomes an integrated part of Windows 11. They might have no choice but to migrate to Linux.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They will pay for enterprise licenses and be able to disable and delete it.

Only us plebs get whipped.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. Group policies give lots of control to mass enable/disable features.

It's one of the reasons to pirate Enterprise Windows instead of Home/Pro, so you can write your own group policies for your own device.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Been doing that for the past 15 years or so, being able to use group policy is essential with Windows. I'm pretty sure my son really wants to upgrade his last computer (to Linux), but I may have more work to convince the wife.

I always just bought grey market keys (for Pro/Enterprise), in nearly 20 years I never had one fail or quit working randomly.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why would your wife need to be convinced?

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When my gf buys a new laptop she hands it to me and says:

Linux this

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

Mine Linuxes it herself and has strong distro preferences.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because she still like the familiarity of Windows. She doesn't do anything specific to Windows, just doesn't want to leave it yet.

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[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The LSTC edition has a few more years in it... but I wouldn't do MASS in a GRAVE... ehr, I mean - fuck.

Look, just search for "MassGrave" on GitHub.

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[–] darkkite@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

i just updated. https://www.startallback.com/ fixed most of my issues along with https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

shame we have to do it, but even with Linux I have to do a bunch of stuff to make it more usable though at least it wont spy on you by default

[–] galileopie@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Copilot is not an issue, it's Recall that could send screenshots of all files and folders to Microsoft.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

Even if they don't send data, it is a treasure trove for a hacker to get. Such a terrible idea MS came up with.

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[–] aimizo@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Snake! Oh no, it's a snake!

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'd go with Bazzite, which is what SteamOS and Fedora Atomic Desktop would look like if they had a child.

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[–] MeatStiq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Honestly I downgraded to 10 earlier this year. Then the windows 11 update came out that boosts Ryzen performance, well my happy ass couldn't miss out on them gains. So back to 11 I went.

My PC is pretty much strictly used for gaming so more power is more power.

I immediately de-bloated once I was updated.

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Good timing honestly. The only reason I kept a Windows machine around was for gaming. Now we have much better support across the board.

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