Kamala Harris Rolls Out National Marijuana Legalization Plan, Pledging To Make It 'The Law Of The Land' : newjerseycannabis

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sigh... leave it to Lemmy to turn a discussion about cannabis into complaining about Gaza again like in almost every other thread. Everyone knows about the genocide and how awful it is, but none of us can do anything about it right now and it's not relevant to the topic at hand. Can we please have a discussion about other things without it just devolving into fighting over it?

Anyway, as a Canadian, our country hasn't fallen into mass chaos and drug abuse despite cannabis being legalized. I'm sure the federal government loves the extra tax dollars, and we don't need to buy from shady black market dealers so it's usually safer. I hope America can learn from what we're doing up north, cannabis shouldn't be illegal.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

pssst...it's mostly Russians trying to manufacture an October surprise for Trump.

its weird how one day all the threads were about "Biden bad, Harris bad by-proxy, vote for anyone but Harris."

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

its weird how one day all the threads were about "Biden bad, Harris bad by-proxy, vote for anyone but Harris."

Were you accidentally browsing lemmy.ml?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

very likely.

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

If this were last year I totally would've used you as an example/reference in my ENC1101 essay about weed legalization 🥲 that's exactly the same points I wrote about

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (3 children)

who are the freaks that are still against legalization?? after my state legalized it was only a matter of months before even the anti drug boomers I know to be buying gummies for their arthritis

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Old conservatives mostly. Still favored by a majority of both parties.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

My in laws used to get so mad at my wife for smoking pot. Recently they weren’t even a little mad to hear that I’d used it on a road trip as a replacement for Dramamine. They also have chilled the fuck out about other drugs since I described how lsd has improved my mental health.

Pot is just awesome. Best analgesic and antiemetic I can get otc, most fun one too

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Pfft, for real, all my elderly relatives have some sort of cannabis rubbing cream or an extract for sleeping.

[–] francisfordpoopola@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If this isn't enough to get people to vote I don't know what is.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

It got people to vote for biden. And he's still hard at work to do it. Maybe in another election cycle or two.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not a druggie, but I say legalize the doobage on a national level.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Smoking weed makes you a druggie as much as drinking coffee black makes you a crackhead.

Both of which will have to be legalised, btw.

[–] windlas@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Its been legal for a while in Canada now and the sky has not fallen.

Chip sales are way up. Maybe this is just Big Snackfood playing us for fools?

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

for a weed sub this comment section is wild

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I think a lot of lemmings just read /c/all since most subs don't have a ton of content.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah never happen. too much money in law enforcement

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

don't worry there's all the fentanyl. which is a dangerous problem.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah but the roi just isnt as easy to get

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

a drug bust isn't always about the money, sometimes it's about the innocent civilians the police murder along the way.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

this is true, but civil forfieture has been a large part of keeping law enforcement equipped

[+] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz -44 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is this her plan to win back the progressives who were put off by that whole like, genocide thing?

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's a shame she couldn't lie and say she'd fix the issue in 24 hr's like trump. The issue isn't THAT complex, ya knowwwww?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But she could just say ‘stop it, you guys!’ and they’d say ‘okay, sorry’. It’s not like ending a holy war that’s been going on for centuries is that hard.

[+] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz -6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The president has authority to approve, deny, or restrict international arms sales:

The term “Leahy law” refers to two statutory provisions prohibiting the U.S. Government from using funds for assistance to units of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating that unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights (GVHR).

The Arms Export Control Act of 1976 gives the President of the United States the authority to control the import and export of defense articles and defense services.

She literally could say "stop it, you guys!" and they'd run out of bullets and bombs.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And that would cause innumerable other problems. This issue is not that simple. If it was, it would have been solved decades ago.

Look, I hate this holy war. I’m angry beyond words we’re still watching people die in that region. I’ve been alive a long time, and this stupid fucking war has been killing civilians – fucking innocent children – in waves the entire time I’ve been alive. But it really isn’t as simple as just ‘defund them’.

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

thats a pretty decisive claim. how do you support your assertion? for my part it seems clear to me that the president does in fact have the power to stop the war by depriving one side the means of continuing it, and I've showed the levers of power she could pull. I'm not saying it's easy, I'm saying it's a hell of a lot simpler than people seem to be willing to concede.

edit: also, what's the cost of doing nothing? or rather continuing to do nothing? we just twiddle our thumbs and go "golly gee wizz aw shucks dang they're sure blowing stuff up over there" until the genocide is finished? watch, as you seem to be content to do for your whole lifetime, as an atrocity plays out?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That whole region has been a powder keg for a very, very long time. It’s not just a war that keeps flaring up, it’s a holy war with insane fanatics on many sides, and it’s frankly amazing it hasn’t exploded before now.

I’m not trying to be decisive, just saying in my experience of watching this conflict over several decades, it’s far from simple. Every time it flares up like this, some people chime in with the same exact assertions, and looking at it in a vacuum, those ideas make some sense. But the geopolitics of this is very complex, with tendrils everywhere, and if simple solutions would work, we wouldn’t be here now.

I don’t know the answer, but I know from watching this play out many times under many US presidents that without all the behind-the-scenes diplomatic information, no amount of armchair quarterbacking can come close to what’s been tried and failed. Some of those failures have led to wider wars, with many, many more deaths.

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

alright, a, first off, the situation is exploding right now. the powder keg is boiling over and spreading to other countries like lebanon and iran. if it's the geopolitics that have you convinced, then please explain the specific geopolitical factors that have you convinced. ill admit my ignorance fair and square. if it's all the previous presidents who were deeply invested in finding a solution but ultimately failed, tell me about that. a response would ideally include how they attempted to regulate arms exports or hold (as far as i can tell an effectively unchecked) israel in any way accountable for belligerence and aggression and grievance.

you say you're not decisive, yet you tell me with what i can only read as finality that depriving israel of the means to wage war wouldn't lead to de-escalation. im not even saying you're wrong, but im asking how you can be so certain its simplicity would lead to its failure. it seems pretty obvious (to me at least) that if they really need those arms for self defense they will stop doing the aggressive acts that i propose we condition their arms by. fuck a ceasefire, hold their bombs over their head and make them play nice if they need them so badly. if they dont play nice, take their fucking toys away.

can we both agree that the cost of continuing to do nothing would be actively supporting genocide?

[+] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz -19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

you sure showed me, now that you said that thing about trump (for some reason) im convinced this isnt a pittance thrown in to distract from her supporting the genocide (you know, the genocide? with the ethnic cleansing and the 80 year retributive war and all) as president, or what she plans to like, do about that whole like, sitch. "What's that? You're calling who? Ceasefire? Sorry I can't hear you over all the sharply-pointed nothing that's been doing. Ask me later when I've finished genociding all these people I'm trying to ethnic cleanse from their land im apartheiding."

lets just get high about it, all that nakba stuff is really way too complex to understand anyway

miss me with the reply if its gonna be about trump fr fr

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Israel sure respected the last ceasefire agreement.

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

israel "respecting" the terms of a ceasefire (to which it was effectively indifferent) that in no way addressed the fundamental grievances of the palestenians: blockades, apartheid, land encroachment, property confiscation, eviction and demolition, restriction of food and other forms of aid, human rights violations, and violations of international law (collectively constituting a violent campaign of ethnic cleansing and annexation) doesnt constitute the benevolent nonviolent "respect" for peace you seem to be suggesting. nor does this campaign continuing during what some are pleased to call "ceasefire" suggest an interest in relieving those very real grievances, incompatible with a viable or, in evidence, peaceful palestinian society.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Lots of people making lots of assumptions tonight, huh?

I want the CIA to take out Bibi and his cabinet to be put down like the rabid dogs they are before the start WW3. I actively hope Israel is treated like the Nazis before them and we Nuremberg each and every IDF officer, soldier, and settler that has participated in the litany of war crimes that have taken place. I hope Israeli zionists get the same wake up call that the Nazi supporters after WW2. I hope the Americans that have been preaching support for the zionists are treated like the douche bags waving Nazi flags at Trump parades.

Do I think anyone not voting for Harris because of her lack of "sufficient calls for a ceasefire" are fucking morons? Yes. You are all fucking morons.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Dah comrade.

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