Data Is Beautiful

A few folks have mentioned that these charts

1. conflate liberal/conservative with the dominant left/right parties in these nations
2. does not include people who do not identify with one of those dominant parties
3. have some somewhat unreliable stats magic behind them

A lot of young men in the US are reporting themselves as "not a Democrat or Republican", and that's causing a lot of this proportional shift. I would bet that characterizes a lot of folks on this site who are not conservative.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/3/13/24098780/politics-gender-divide-generation-z-youth-men-women

https://www.allendowney.com/blog/2024/01/28/is-the-ideology-gap-growing/

The opposite to conservative is progressive, not liberal

When I think of all the women & girls in my life that I care about, I remember that I could never be a conservative. It would be a betrayal.

Assuming this is accurate, I'm pleased to see men in the UK bucking the trend.

As women gain independence, frightened men turn to patriarchal solutions. Hence a turd like JD Vance spouting hateful and controlling rhetoric on podcasts and Ahole Tate brainwashing adolescent boys. Fuck these people.

🌳 Die? No. We lost them, and now we cannot find them.

Another Lemmy post with no source in the main post.

What the fuck South Korea? Also you just know that sudden rise in liberal men in the UK is the Tories' doing.

Difficult to assess this info without knowing how the data was created.

Conservative being down is a good presentation choice.

So probably -

When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

Men want the days back when they were more in charge and didn’t have to worry about consequences so much.

It's weird that the axes of where "centre" is remain stable over time. Can you imagine comparing "left vs right" between the 1890s and the 1920s? Like a bunch of stuff happened in between, history happened, and that tends to redefine left, right and centre.

The important thing here is to know how did they measure young people's political ideologies. I wouldn't expect it was self-perceived as currently, people have a hard time admitting they are conservative compared to admitting they sympathize with a conservative party.

If it was determined by a questionnaire, it would be interesting to see what questions were included. Maybe the questions weren't well planned and that's it. Maybe they equalled feminist takes to ~~progressive~~ liberal ones, which is something that can be discussed. In this case, I would be picky about the origin of the graphics.

The gap sounds plausible, but I highly doubt the overall positions relative to 0.

E.g., the Federal Republic of Germany has had conservative chancellors for 51 years out of the 75 since it was founded. We did not have a constant left majority (I assume that is what they mean by liberal, since the actual sense of the term doesn't make sense as an opposite to "conservative").

Edit: I fucked up, this is only about people below 30.

I genuinely fear for future for women across the world

What's the source? I wanna learn about the weird unexpected drops in some countries.

Ohh wait, this is actually good for my dating chances. Gotta find the good in the bad...