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Modulation / key changes have been used in music for ages but the style I'm talking about is the distinctive last verse (or chorus) sudden key change up to power through to the end. Seems to have come about sometime in the 60s/70s and was everywhere in the 80s onwards.

Examples:

Heaven is a place on earth - Belinda Carlisle

I will always love you - Whitney Houston

But who popularised it? What was the first big song to do it and set the style for the genre?

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Modulation fluctuates in popularity. About a quarter of number one hits from the 60s through the 90s utilized it, whereas in the 2010s only one number one hit did.

Why the key change has disappeared from top-charting tune - NPR - All Things Considered

Edit: I realize this doesn’t answer your question, but I’m not sure there really is an answer. It’s such an old technique, musically speaking.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

it sort of does answer it in that it wasn't reallllly popularized in the 80s it was just rehashed by pop chart hits.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You see it in classical music all the time, like minor to major changes leading to crescendos or other larger shifts leading to the end of a movement. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Chopin. It's nothing new.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agree. But mine is a question about style as much as anything. It's use in 80s ballads is distinctive. Same key throughout song then a singular upshift for the last verse / chorus. I'm not referring to music that modulates throughout the whole piece, or makes a change near the end having done it in several other places.

[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

Probably not the correct answer, but a lot of Jim Steinman composed/produced songs have that cheesy power ballad flair to it.

[–] Haus@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty musically ignorant, but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was Chicago.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Hmm, 1975. I'm sure there are big hits that are earlier. I'm pretty sure the Beatles did it.

[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

They'll have to fight Bob Seger for the title.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

The short answer, I don't know.

But from my own observation there were a lot more general key changes in 1980s-era rock, which may have been the result of fewer other ways to escalate a song for the final chorus and outro, which is to say, yes, new tech (mostly sampling, looping and higher-fidelity recording) reduced the need for creativity much the way that movies had a lot more stage effects before they just filmed actors in green-screen and added everything with CGI.

Last year I went to a SGMC concert of mostly Queen, and was noticing how much their tunes bounced around, often having two or three key-changes per verse+chorus.

[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Like most others here, I don't have an answer for you. I just wanted to share that I feel songs using this gimmick are lazy attempts to pad the length of the song. Nothing prompts me to change the channel or skip ahead faster.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yep it's cheesy. You can do that with purpose, but that's very rare.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Some certainly do. But it also creates a distinct emotional feel which may also be a legitimate intention.

[–] jastyty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

There is a cool video by David Bennett about this. I can't seem to remember if he mentions who was the first one, but he puts on a lot of samples I wasn't aware of

https://youtu.be/fJf8MhLQz-8

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

~~That style actually pre-dates the 80's by at least a few decades. In more traditional music, particularly Christian hymns, that's referred to as a "descant". It was popularized in church music in the early 20th century by Ralph Vaughn Williams.~~

Edit: See comment below.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That style actually pre-dates the 80's by at least a few decades. In more traditional music, particularly Christian hymns, that's referred to as a "descant". It was popularized in church music in the early 20th century by Ralph Vaughn Williams.

Descant is a vocal harmony above the melody, whereas in hymnody most harmony is below the melody. They show up in final stanzas, most frequently.

What they’re talking about here is modulation, where the key shifts by a step or two (or maybe a half step). It’s sometimes seen as a bit cheesy nowadays, but I love a good modulation.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That makes sense and I just learned something new. Thanks for the correction!

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the correction!

Thanks for the gratitude!

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know nothing about music history, but consider that you're basically describing yodeling

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

not the singing of high notes but the music key. e.g. Whitney's song starts out in one key but progresses up one later when she hits the chorus "AND IIIIII EEEIIIIII"

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

WEIIIIIILLL AaAAAHHLWWWAYS love EUGHYOUUUUUU

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I know almost nothing about yodelling, but of the little I've heard it has never struck me as a dramatic key change