Yes, It’s Still Really Worth Avoiding COVID—Even If You’ve Already Had It a Few Times : coronavirus

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The recent study where they intentional infected a bunch of paid volunteers and tracked what happened over the next year is really concerning. All of them have lasting brain damage and none of them can tell this occurred. The Long Covid studies are struggling to find healthy controls because there are a lot of people now walking around with the metabolic and vascular problems that are found in Long Covid but appear asymptomatic. This virus is doing a lot of damage and everyone is one infection away from their life being destroyed by Long Covid.

The studying I am referring to https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00421-8/fulltext

Bare in mind it's one in 400k such studies showing the damage of Covid it's no outlier it's just really dumb.

[–] john_lemmy@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A study where subjects were intentionally infected? Please tell me you have a link to that study

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

This is the study https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00421-8/fulltext

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

What a terrible thing to volunteer for.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Echoing the other comment, I'd also like a link to the study if you have it on hand.

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The study https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00421-8/fulltext

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 5 points 2 months ago

Thank you!

[–] NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I wear masks in the airplane and in airports still, and in places like Utah or Texas, people get extremely passive aggressive towards me when I do. I have had flight attendants pretend not to hear me and get angry that I have my mask up, random elderly strangers tisk at me when they pass by, just so much general hassle and passive seething for something that has nothing to do with them. It’s terrifying how much people seem to hate me just for not wanting to get sick.

[–] Naura@startrek.website 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I lived in conservative California and we know my spouse’s veteran identifiers were the only reason we didn’t get hassled. Then we went back in a rental car and we were harassed by a small dick truck. This was in 2021.

Thank god we live in the Bay Area now, masking is still common and I see it all the time.

I don’t understand what the fucking big deal is.

Oh right, your freedumbs

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I live in the Bay Area. I rarely see masks.

[–] Naura@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

Dang, that sucks.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As someone with cystic fibrosis who has to fly to Texas in a few weeks...great.

[–] NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I might just be unlucky tbh. I hope you’re experience traveling to Texas goes well!

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes I've heard people in conservative states will hassle you. I actually got yelled at for it on a bus last week by a guy in a Fuck Trudeau shirt, who I ignored. But the US conservatives are really scary people.

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[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When it became known that covid was neuro invasive, I got even more mad at the short sighted responses of 'herd immunity' and 'saving the economy'.

I bet that we see a huge spike in mental degenerative diseases with our generation.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

As someone who works in that field, it's already noticeable.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Especially older people and those who we might charitably call "vaccine hesitant". It's almost like all that's stupidity has negative effect on our society as a whole.

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've had every recommended booster, got it from my dentist in July 2023 and spent a solid week in bed with what rivaled the worst flu I'd ever had. Actual flu, not "it's just the flu, bro" bullshit.

This was followed by a month of a wet racking cough and very congested lungs. I have no idea how much the vaccines and boosters reduced the severity of lessened any long covid, but I got my booster last year (months later) and will be doing so again very soon this year.

Why the hell would anyone want this virus?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Amazingly my coworker who has escaped it says she wants it to get it over with. I sort of understand the waiting for the other shoe to drop feeling, but I'd rather never have had it. I got it on a trip on the way back from Mexico when I was wearing an N95 the whole time.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing to "get over with." She can continue to get it after having it before, and every time makes the potential risks higher. I've managed to avoid it so far (as far as I know,) but I know my luck will run out eventually. Just hoping to get it as few times as possible.

[–] huzzahunimpressively@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Due to my OCD I'm almost a hikikomori and I got the virus. I don't know how. I work from home and I don't go to parties or things like that.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's SUPER transmissible. I have no clue why my wife and I haven't gotten it because she in particular has had several times where she was in close proximity with infected individuals at work. Maybe we have and were asymptomatic, or maybe we've just been lucky...so far.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some people just seem to have good immunity. Count yourself lucky.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It lingers in the air like smoke. You could have just happened upon it.

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My granddaughter is in the same camp. Fully vaccinated for everything else you'd expect, but completely bought into the repackaged HPV vaccine hysteria that got grafted onto the Covid vaccines. So she's had it 5 times, including one that she describes as 'that time I almost died'.

Also, she's a teacher. At a religious school that obviously doesn't require that particular vaccine.

What the ever loving fuck is wrong with people.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well thankfully my coworker is as vaccinated as I am (she asks me every six months if she should get the new version and I say yes), and she's not foolish about it at all. I guess it just feels like the inevitable if you haven't had it 4-1/2 years into this.

I cannot imagine the brain damage your granddaughter must have from five bouts of COVID. Wow. Disinformation is a terrible thing.

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

She's not stupid, but prone to magical thinking. Which in our current environment of mass disinfo is just as damaging as being genuinely stupid sadly.

[–] maniii@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Almost all illnesses are worth avoiding. Take for example, malaria. Dengue has 4-variants which can kill if you've already got any one of others the first time. COVID still hasnt been fully researched yet.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Absolutely.

Back in the early 2000s there were "crunchy" moms on Livejournal who were mailing each other "pox boxes", which was a juice box a kid with chicken pox had licked I guess? It was absolutely insane and did not work.

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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having had it a few times, I do everything I can to avoid it.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I still mask everywhere and will have my ninth vaccine next month. I've been lucky to only have one mild case that was basically a stuffy nose. I feel very fortunate, and I take it really seriously.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The only 2 things I've had that were worse than the last time I had COVID:

Pneumonia when I was 15, so sick I had to be carried to the washroom.
Whooping cough earlier this year, coughing so much I couldn't sleep, couldn't walk more than 3 or 4 meters in a go

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ugh whooping cough is awful. I've never had it. I wonder if I should get a booster.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you have easy access to a booster... fuckin do it!
I was sick as a dog for 3 weeks, started being symptomatic late Feb, was well enough to work again by mid March....had a persistent cough until early June, and due to health monitoring at work my lung capacity and strength has been verified as having gone down about 5%. It's almost October and I still have a bit of a cough, not all the time like right after the worst of it, but if it's cold, or humid, or I've been lying down for a few hours(say around 2am)....

Anyway, definitely get a booster if you can.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I'll ask my GP. I do not fool around with getting vaccines as needed, that's for sure. I just don't know what the policy is.

Would I be a bad person if I fibbed to public health to get an Mpox vaccine by telling them I have multiple sex partners? I don't but I would like one because it's spread by touch.

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[–] sverit@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I had the real influenza which was a bit worse, but I wasn't vaccinated 3 times against that. Covid gave me over 6 months of loss of smell, that was terrible.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why we’re wearing masks right now at an airport terminal.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I got it on a plane trip, I think that's the most dangerous place is a plane.

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[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a minor living in an anti-vaccine family, having caught COVID thrice, oh no.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Man I'm so sorry.

[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've literally just had it and it sucked. Would not recommend.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And yet the government pretends it's all fine.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

GovernmentS unfortunately

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