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I'm trying to find a good method of making periodic, incremental backups. I assume that the most minimal approach would be to have a Cronjob run rsync periodically, but I'm curious what other solutions may exist.

I'm interested in both command-line, and GUI solutions.

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[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't. I lose my data like all the cool (read: fool) kids.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I too rawdog linux like a chad

[–] Ew0@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago
[–] inex@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

Timeshift is a great tool for creating incremental backups. Basically it's a frontend for rsync and it works great. If needed you can also use it in CLI

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use Borg backup with Vorta for a GUI. Hasn't let me down yet.

[–] haroldstork@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I use PikaBackup which I think uses Borg. Super good looking Gnome app that has worked for me.

[–] AES@lemmy.ronsmans.eu 5 points 1 year ago

Borgmatic is also a great option, cli only.

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[–] mariom@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it just me or the backup topic is recurring each few days on !linux@lemmy.ml and !selfhosted@lemmy.world?

To be on topic as well - I use restic+autorestic combo. Pretty simple, I made repo with small script to generate config for different machines and that's it. Storing between machines and b2.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

It is a critical one. Maybe needs to be part of an FAQ with link to discussion.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

I have a bash script that backs all my stuff up to my Homeserver with Borg. My servers have cronjobs that run similar scripts.

[–] NoXPhasma@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Back In Time to backup my important data on an external drive. And for snapshots I use timeshift.

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[–] thegreenguy@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Pika Backup (GUI for borgbackup) is a great app for backups. It has all the features you might expect from backup software and "just works".

[–] jack667@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use restic (https://restic.net/) which can use rclone to connect to a variety of backends (eg. onedrive, mega, dropbox etc.). Also, resticprofile (https://restic.net/) makes it easier to run (hides flags in the config file). I use it manually but a cron job would be easy to implement (a tutorial is here: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/daily-automated-backups-using-restic/16812).

[–] Jajcus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Restic does not need rclone and can use many remote storage services directly. I do restic backups directly to Backblaze.

[–] kittyrunningnoise@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like rsnapshot, run from a cron job at various useful intervals. backups are hardlinked and rotated so that eventually the disk usage reaches a very slowly growing steady state.

[–] auv_guy@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I also use it. Big benefit is also that you don‘t need a special software to access your backup.

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly like you think. Cronjob runs a periodic rsync of a handful of directories under /home. My OS is on a different drive that doesn't get backed up. My configs are in an ansible repository hosted on my home server and backed up the same way.

[–] GlowHuddy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I do periodic backups of my system from live usb via Borg Backup to a samba share.

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Duplicity (cli) with deja-dup (gui) has saved my sorry ass many times.

[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago

rsync + backblaze B2. Bafkblaze is stupid cheap.

Cost is about $10 per year.

[–] Jajcus@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kopia or Restic. Both do incremental, deduplicated backups and support many storage services.

Kopia provides UI for end user and has integrated scheduling. Restic is a powerfull cli tool thatlyou build your backup system on, but usually one does not need more than a cron job for that. I use a set of custom systems jobs and generators for my restic backups.

Keep in mind, than backups on local, constantly connected storage is hardly a backup. When the machine fails hard, backups are lost ,together with the original backup. So timeshift alone is not really a solution. Also: test your backups.

[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I really like kopia

[–] okda@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Check out Pika backup. It's a beautiful frontend for Borg. And Borg is the shit.

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Used to use Duplicati but it was buggy and would often need manual intervention to repair corruption. I gave up on it.

Now use Restic to Backblaze B2. I've been very happy.

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[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I don't, really. I don't have much data that is irreplaceable.

The ones that are get backed up manually to Proton Drive and my NAS (manually via SMB).

[–] Tiuku@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BTRFS filesystem, Snapper for taking periodic snapshots and snap-sync for saving one to an external drive every now and then.

BTRFS is what makes everything incremental.

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[–] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I rotate between a few computers. Everything is synced between them with syncthing and they all have automatic btrfs snapshots. So I have several physical points to roll back from.

For a worst case scenario everything is also synced offsite weekly to a pCloud share. I have a little script that mounts it with pcloudfs, encfs and then rsyncs any updates.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

by the way, syncthing is great if you need bi-directional sync.
not exactly what you're looking for (sth like Duplicacy?) but you should probably know about it as it's a great tool.

[–] KitchenNo2246@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

All my devices use Syncthing via Tailscale to get my data to my server.

From there, my server backs up nightly to rsync.net via BorgBackup.

I then have Zabbix monitoring my backups to make sure a daily is always uploaded.

[–] akash_rawal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use rsync+btrfs snapshot solution.

  1. Use rsync to incrementally collect all data into a btrfs subvolume
  2. Deduplicate using duperemove
  3. Create a read-only snapshot of the subvolume

I don't have a backup server, just an external drive that I only connect during backup.

Deduplication is mediocre, I am still looking for snapshot aware duperemove replacement.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not trying to start a flame war, but I'm genuinely curious. Why do people like btrfs over zfs? Btrfs seems very much so "not ready for prime time".

[–] akash_rawal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Features necessary for most btrfs use cases are all stable, plus btrfs is readily available in Linux kernel whereas for zfs you need additional kernel module. The availability advantage of btrfs is a big plus in case of a disaster. i.e. no additional work is required to recover your files.

(All the above only applies if your primary OS is Linux, if you use Solaris then zfs might be better.)

[–] EddyBot@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

btrfs is included in the linux kernel, zfs is not on most distros
the tiny chance that an externel kernel module borking with a kernel upgrade happens sometimes and is probably scary enough for a lot of people

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[–] donio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Restic since 2018, both to locally hosted storage and to remote over ssh. I've "stuff I care about" and "stuff that can be relatively easily replaced" fairly well separated so my filtering rules are not too complicated. I used duplicity for many years before that and afbackup to DLT IV tapes prior to that.

Git projects and system configs are on GitHub (see etckeeper), the reset is synced to my self-hosted Nextcloud instance using their desktop client. There I have periodic backup using Borg for both the files and Nextcloud database.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I just run my own nextcloud instance. Everything important is synced to that with the nextcloud desktop client, and the server keeps a month's worth of backups on my NAS via rsync.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

DejaDup on one computer. Another is using Syncthing, another I do a manual Grsync. i really should have a better plan. lol

[–] rodbiren@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use synching on several devices to replicate data I want to keep backups of. Family photos, journals, important docs, etc. Works perfect and I run a relay node to give back to the community given I am on a unlimited data connection.

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[–] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 3 points 1 year ago

I do a periodic backup with Vorta towards my server. The server does a daily backup to an S3 service with Restic

[–] shaulliv@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I use Rclone which has both an WEBUI and CLI.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

dont keep anything u would be upset to lose /s

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

At the core it has always been rsync and Cron. Sure I add a NAS and things like rclone+cryptomator to have extra copies of synchronized data (mostly documents and media files) spread around, but it's always rsync+Cron at the core.

[–] podagro@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

timeshift with system files and manually my home folder

[–] useless@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use btrbk to send btrfs snapshots to a local NAS. Consistent backups with no downtime. The only annoyance (for me at least) is that both send and receive ends must use the same SELinux policy or labels won't match.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I run ZFS on my servers and then replicate to other ZFS servers with Syncoid.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just keep in mind that a replica is not a backup.

If you lose or corrupt a file and you don't find out for a few months, it's gone on the replicas too.

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