Sorry about the PTSD, but....
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I watch a streamer who mastered speed running dozens of NES games. He says Battletoads was the hardest game to learn. Just getting through the game, not even pushing for a fast time, was extremely challenging. Much harder than TMNT 1 or Ninja Gaiden.
I have never met anyone that could beat this level. It’s like it was made to sell the Game Genie.
You have to memorize the level and jump a bit before that one tricky one comes on screen.
Aww yeah. I'm gonna call Gold and Silver Pawn and see if they have this classic in stock.
I've started to hate the term "Hardest".
Give me two months in Unity, and I can make a game that's "harder" than every game on any one of these lists. It would also be unplayable trash, that would prompt hundreds of "How the fuck are you supposed to XXX" responses due to obscurity. Part of what makes those listed games enjoyable is having a decent difficulty curve, compelling progression of skill demonstration, and a good feeling of reward. They're getting difficulty right.
Did we already forget about Battletoads?
I beat Battletoads a ton when I was a kid, we never beat the Turtles game.
Battletoads would like a word
Some of those old games from the NES or even into the SNES era were just outright impossible. IIRC there was a Dennis The Menace game didn't have the final boss ready for the publishing deadline so they just put an impossible jump just before it so players couldn't get that far.
Lion King on SEGA Genesis?
Takeshi's Challenge?
Dragon's Lair?
Ninja Gaiden?
Marble Madness?
Battletoads?
Fuckin battletoads. WAY harder than turtles.
Elden Ring isn't even the most difficult soulsborne game, by a longshot
This was certainly the hardest part of the game due to the controls, but it still pales in comparison to actually difficult games of the era that were designed to take quarters first, provide gameplay later
Idk if I'm finally getting old or the real nerds are hiding. Nobody in here knows about Nethack? At least someone said Dwarf Fortress.
One time I died on turn zero failing to mount my horse and hitting my head on the stone stairs.
NetHack makes most mortals cry. My bones files taunt me.
IMHO Elden Ring isn't the most difficult fromsoft game.
That honor goes to Sekiro.
Imagine souls games giving you only three lives before sending you back to the very beginning of the game.
the chief irony of this game is turtles are supposed to be good at swimming underwater.
Well. But the way the TMNT's legs poke out their shells before they get mutated heavily implies they're actually Teenage Mutant Ninja Tortoises. I think the mistake comes from that their crew was named by a rat who only ever read about ninjutsu. What the fuck does master splinter know about identifying the difference between a turtle and a tortoise?
I forget which platform it was, but one version of that TMNT game was literally impossible because someone fucked up the distance of a jump in one of the sewer levels, making it an impossible jump to make.
I had it on PC as a kid and it was hard enough just reading the codes out of the booklet using that piece of red cellophane to get the fucker to start up lol
Are you thinking of that one small gap where you have to just walk over it without jumping, and trying to jump makes you fall?
Silver Surfer for the NES is way harder than TMNT. It's possible, though I've never done it, to beat TMNT. AFAIK , Silver Surfer is actually possible to beat, but basically no one has done it.
Forgot battletoads exists I guess
Elden Ring felt pretty easy. The first 10 hours were brutal, but once I adjusted, it was pretty easy.
The hardest game is probably just a random game that no one knows about
I would like to submit this game as the hardest one
[NES] Sector Z, Goonies, and others would like a word [Atari] E.T. has entered the chat
The young'uns nowadays don't know what a difficult game is. Not to mention the "impossible" ones.
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With that said I still prefer it to TMNT.
I completed TMNT as a kid... on Commodore 64. That version is admittedly a little bit easier than the NES version (some mechanics were missing, and an entire level is gone, as I recall). Still, I have no idea why people complain about the second level (river), it's actually pretty fun. Compared to what's to come later in the game.
To me, the definitive "hard" game is Metroid Prime 2: Echoes on GameCube. Dark Souls just makes me say "eeeeeehhhh this is probably doable, I'll play this after I'm done with MP2E."
(When I first played MP2E, I only got through the second to last boss. Then my MadCatz memory card died. Played through the game again, with the fury of million suns. 99% complete. Because I missed one optional scan. ...One of these days I replay this bastard.)