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[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Youtube is blocking large/public instances of Invidious, not all instances.

Can we please not do the click bait/rage bait thing here?

[–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bro can't look 1 step ahead...

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago

The point is that the post title was false (or intentionally very misleading, if you insist on creatively parsing it). Accuracy in post titles is important.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Enshittification is progressing....

I'd rather download each video manually via yt-dlp (previously youtube-dl) than creating and using a google acoount to watch it.

[–] wwwgem@lemmy.ml 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yt-fzf is still an option if you're interested.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you very much!

I just tried it with VLC as player and it tried streaming it, which seems to be blocked. Tgere is a download option, but after downloading, it does not seem to play the video.. Any suggestions?

[–] wwwgem@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

It's been a long time since I checked the config options but yt-fzf only supports mpv as media player I think.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is saddening.

I know the invidious contributors have been working on this over the last few months. Looks like they finally got there only to have youtube slam the door. That's a real gut punch.

I already switched to running an instance at home instead of my VPS, so this news doesn't change much for me personally but it's a demonstration that youtube is actively seeking to block the project.

As with reddit / lemmy, I doubt a viable alternative will emerge until youtube has become well and truly offensive.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As with reddit / lemmy, I doubt a viable alternative will emerge until youtube has become well and truly offensive.

Even after it has this is very unlikely because part of the appeal of youtube is getting paid for work and most people either don't have the money to pay for it, choose not to or hate the platforms through which creators ask to get paid through.

Like it or not, either it'll be another tech company who will later do this exact same thing or we need more people willing to pay and less shitty platforms through which they can do so i.e. not VC backed/supported.

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago

There aren't many ways to organize raising the money required to build a better youtube or reddit. You could kickstart it, but you'd better hope whoever does the dev doesn't sell. Another option would be a large open source ngo funding the development, but you're still talking long timelines to completion.

There definitely is room for a more pro-social social media platform that isn't a clone of something else. Paying for it is another matter.

Perhaps. I think consumers are more willing to pay producers than they have been in the past. I acknowledge that the time is not yet right, but with time, the less appealing youtube is the more likely alternatives will become.

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Another reason to ditch corporate pages and embrace freedom.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sadly the amount and variance of videos on peertube pales in comparison to youtube. I need my Sherlock Holmes audio books 😩

I really wish more youtube producers would cross post to other platforms.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Have they added safety features like denying follows yet?

Also, they really need to create apps for all platforms, this would increase their popularity and usability.

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Have they added safety features like denying follows yet?

https://ideas.joinpeertube.org

Also, they really need to create apps for all platforms, this would increase their popularity and usability.

https://joinpeertube.org/news/peertube-future-2024

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

So no, and it doesn't even appear to be on that list.

Cool, seems like eventually they will.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you know of an instance that is able to cover all their expenses with ads?

I want a peer tube instance with ads because I want to make sure my uploaded data is durable long-term

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why not just pay them? I feel like fedi is based more on that than ads, a lot of us on fedi hate ads.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Because that doesn't sound sustainable

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

How is it different to other fedi projects/instances surviving off of donations?

Most will likely block the adverts anyway, so I fail to see how it'll make money that way.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 18 hours ago

I mean, I still block all ads on YouTube, but they still make wayy more money than they need just to pay for the infrastructure. Peer tube would only need to make a fraction of what they make.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 9 points 1 day ago

I run invidious at home on my proxmox server. The server is available everywhere with tailscale, so I can use it even when travelling. If Google ever blocks this, nobody at home can watch youtube anymore...

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not only invidious I guess, they want the user to login when too many videos has been watched on an IP address. So also web browsers on a VPN for example

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So university students can't watch YouTube anymore? Huh

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

Not without login, probably

[–] hedge@beehaw.org 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago

Freetube just loads the videos from YouTube directly if you don't activate the proxy option (which will use Invidious or Piped, haven't used Freetube in a while so idk which one it was)

[–] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago
[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 8 points 1 day ago

Some piped instances are still working, thankfully.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 12 points 1 day ago

I was wondering yesterday why no instance was working, because I always share at least one Invidious link together when sharing YouTube links.

BTW it's not fully blocked, if you can install Invidious locally and use it. But that's not a route I want to go.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What does "fully" mean? I'm watching Dan fucking Rath going on a hilarious rant rn on jing.

[–] captainkangaroo@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

According to one of the maintainers

YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Some instances will continue for a bit, but it's probably a matter of time, or until invidious figures out another method

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brave Browser blocks YT ads seamlessly.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago

Lots of options available. YT is slowly cracking down on them. That's OK, just keep your medium run media consumption plans flexible.

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What's the traffic on invidious? Like, while I don't necessarily agree with the ad-block-block, the profit motive makes sense given their ubiquity. But are there really enough users of alternate YouTube frontends that Google is capturing any meaningful profit? Especially when developer hours are expensive and could be used elsewhere on more valuable projects?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

Honestly, dev hours are probably a pittance compared to the potential revenue of more ads watched and/or additional YT prem subscriptions.