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    [–] Thyrian@ttrpg.network 113 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    I think most snap haters mostly hate, that Canonical forces snap upon them, an wouldn't hate so much about it if they had the choice.

    [–] Shareni@programming.dev 80 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, who'd hate using a package manager that increasingly slows down your boot time with every package installed, or that uses a closed source store to provide you FOSS

    Maybe there's a reason canonical has to force it on their users

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I also hate that it creates a loopback device for every installed snap

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 months ago

    There's a lot I dislike about snap. This is the thing I hate.

    [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago

    Yeah typing "apt install firefox" and getting the Snap version does loudly and obnoxiously disqualify Ubuntu from any devices owned by me or my family.

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

    Thanks to snap I switched to arch. It gave a linux beginner so much drive to learn the terminal and install a harder os lol. The firefox snap was the worst shit.

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    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I never used snap, always use official repo > multilib > extra > chaotic aur > aur > flatpak > FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 29 points 2 months ago

    FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO_*

    I feel seen.

    [–] Morphit@feddit.uk 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    curl shit | sudo bash is just so convenient.

    [–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I hope you mean https://shit.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    http://mysite.net | sudo bash

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    [–] alper_celik@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

    The safest install method \s

    [–] vfye@toast.ooo 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Thread made by canonical employee

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    [–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Now also throw GNU Guix, Homebrew and some AppImages in there

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    [–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    It's a shame that snaps are forced to use Canonicals closed source backend because they are really good, and a fully snap system is a very compelling idea for immutable systems

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    [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    People using Linux should take their heads out of their asses sometimes and just let people enjoy things they way they prefer.

    [–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Fuckin preach it friend!

    That's the joy of Linux, the "have it your way" approach to an OS

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    yeah well, you can't have it your way on Ubuntu when Canonical FORCES you to use snaps (heck they even hacked apt to prefer snaps instead of debs)

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    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Snap is bad. I only say this as someone who did a lot of OS security work for Linux and Unix, so take that with a grain of salt.

    [–] Max820@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

    Would you mind explaining why? I'm genuinely curious

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

    snap bad indeed

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I have NODE installed using snap lmao. Why? Installing it the normal way just gives me tons of errors that I'm too bored to deal with. I'm sure there's a fix, but I'm too lazy to debug all that. Of course, I don't use snap node for hosting servers and stuff. I just use it for react native. Regardless, it works n I'm happy lol

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah. I don't mind snap at all for cases where a better package doesn't exist.

    What made me give up Ubuntu was how it railroaded me into snap versions of packages that work better, for me, as native .deb installs.

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Oh definitely. Canonical forcing us to use snap Firefox was very shitty. I mean I still use Ubuntu because I'm lazy, but I did change the snap Firefox thing to the apt libraries or whatever.

    I really don't understand why they don't just adopt flatpak.

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    [–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 months ago

    I use nix like the AUR for debian.

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