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Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said in the wake of the deadly school shooting in Georgia that the massacres are sadly a “fact of life” and offered ways to fortify schools to make them safer against gun violence.

Kamala Harris put out a statement with Vance’s comments and called for “action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals.”

And it appeared to strike a nerve with team Trump that she used Vance’s comments against them.

“Kamala’s interns just released a statement pushing FAKE NEWS,” Trump War Room posted to X with its more than 2 million followers. “Watch the full video and you’ll clearly see that JD Vance does not say what they claim he said. These morons do nothing but lie every single day.”

Except Harris’ campaign shared the same video.

Here’s what Vance had to say:

“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” he said. “But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”

All of that was in what Harris’ campaign shared with her joint statement on the shooting with running mate Tim Walz. Vance said what team Trump said Vance didn’t say and accused the Harris campaign of distorting.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 178 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"No fair using the entirety of what we said to make us look like shitbags!"

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago (2 children)

more like:

"No fair using the entirety of what we said to reveal we are shitbags!"

no one is making them look like anything

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Fascists are the only ones where more context makes them look worse.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

They are doing this to themselves

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 139 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I like how they say “Watch the full video and you’ll clearly see that JD Vance does not say what they claim he said", knowing that the full video does the opposite, but their fans will never bother clicking on it.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the video needs a thumbnail of some open mouthed guy pointing at something. At least thats what virtually all of youtube thinks makes idiots watch their vids.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 months ago

Children watch a ton of YouTube videos. So sadly, all the most annoying stuff exists because it works to get them to click...

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

Kamala posted sections of the full video, of course showing the bad comments from Vance. Trump posted only once section, but says watch the full video, while claiming all Kamala and her team do is lie. I'm actually trying to find the full speech and can't. Pretty annoying since you know Trumpers will say Kamala is lying

they even quote the shit and it into the comments, even though it has captions LOL

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”

Only in America. Weird that 'reality' ignores all other first world nations.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

all other

Are you trying to imply the US is a first world country? /s

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The definition of a first world country includes being a "stable democracy".

If you ask Americans how likely they believe attempts at election fraud will happen in the 2024 election I would be shocked if less than 80% said "very likely". That is not a stable democracy.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

His kids are not in public school or in any sort of danger from a school shooter. Else he'd actually do something about it

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

In the US the oligarchs worry about models of profitability like keeping wages dirt low, profits sky high and workers at each other's throats rather than proven models of success like universal health care and sensible gun control employed by Europe and first world countries worldwide..

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

“But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

The psychos are the students! What school is gonna prevent a student from walking in? If you are intended to be inside the building there will never be enough security to keep killers out when the killer is already in the building. They would have to start cavity searching students because if they want to shoot up the school they would find a way.

The only solution is LESS guns available!

[–] Volkditty@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cavity searching the students is genuinely their recommendation.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well. The problem students. You know the ones.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

The ones with Republican parents?

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

“But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

I guess no one remembers the fire alarm fiasco... March 24, 1998

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/westside-school-shooting-3717/

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There is another way.

Mental. Health. Care.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need more of that, but we also need less availability of guns.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're charging the dad again here.

I don't think that's appropriate for every case, but when the parent provides access to an AR-15 with a child that has shown clear signs of mental instability... yeah, that's negligent homicide.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I think every parent of a school shooter should be charged. Kids can't buy a gun without being old enough and if they go black market where did the kid get the cash? I don't let my kids hold onto enough cash to buy a gun, it goes in our joint bank account so I'll know if they withdraw it. When they are 18 we will sign it over to them.

There are so many things a reasonable parent can do that a neglectful parent doesn't. Also know who your kids friends are, meet them, meet the parents, judge them, judge the parents and the kids harshly. It's your right as a parent to keep your kids safe. If they are in a bad crowd then do something. Change their school, report any and all suspicions that you have, follow your kids if they go out alone. I know its overbearing and your kids may hate it but it's your ass on the line if they shoot up a school or theater.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-regularly-happens/

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Does the J.D. stand for Jackass Dickhead?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Jorgen Depeanus Vance.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Jabroni Defined

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Justthebiggest Dickhead

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“People get shot at, look at Donny! Fuck I love this country!”

Delivered behind bullet proof glass with an armed team of mercenaries.

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[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

he's already said, "we have to get over it." how is that so much worse than "it's a fact of life." ?

they're both fucking ghouls who cheer on the arms industries whether they're tearing through Palestine or american schools, really what's the difference?

edit: to clarify, I mean what's the difference between these two statements - why all the amplified outrage now?

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gee one of them is a damned Nazi and the other is only(relative to fucking Nazis) a wall st leech.

One of them is So. Much. Worse. as to invalidate any comparisons.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Once again, a maga/Republican is in trouble for saying out loud what they all believe.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you think Trump's "October surprise" is going to be him swapping out VP candidates?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Election rules don't allow that in at least some places. Not sure how many.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

past a certain point you're locked in for candidacy, RFK is already experiencing this issue himself, and republicans, predictably, and wrong about it.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RFK just won an ruling that kept absentee ballots from getting sent out in North Carolina because his name is on the ballots, so now the voting can't start until the courts get everything worked out and all the ballots get reprinted if he wins the appeal.

People are literally being kept from voting right now because of him, and that benefits Trump.

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[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yet, somehow trump would be able to get away with it.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, at least part of what he said isn't technically wrong.... School shootings are a "fact of life" in America.

And honestly, if we're not going to address the actual issue, which is guns at a national level, I wouldn't mind seeing every single school turned into a miniature 1980s Beirut.

Why not? Let's assign a Meal Team Six to every school. We'll get snipers on the roof, and random strip searches going on in K-12 education.

Maybe we can empower groups of students within each school to be miniature deputies who are tasked with keeping order among the other inmates, I mean students. We can call this the trustee program.

Oh, and by I wouldn't mind, I mean I would be horrified and it would traumatize at least an entire generation of children before the program was scrapped, but if we're already on this death drive and refuse to do anything meaningful, a part of me wants to see just how dumb we can really get.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

His cultists are locked in they don't hear this stuff and if they did they don't care. Sad state of affairs

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

This guy is getting canned. Any day now.

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But don't they want to make America great again and bring it to a place back in time when there were no school shootings because everything was so great? I thought that was their whole platform?!

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump's "if it makes us look bad it's a lie!"

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

And if I did mean it, you deserved it.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Rest of the world: are they?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

JD Vance's next speech

“Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.”

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Next thing you know Vance will be pushing legislation requiring that every public school classroom have an AR-15 in it, and every teacher be required to regularly pass a test demonstrating proficiency with it…

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Project 2025, page 357

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Helluva a pick there, donnie. Seems that the couch-fucker being very very weird only reflects on how weird you are.

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