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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 160 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nah... vim users fight emacs users, but not nano users. Wrong league. We do not beat little children ;)

[–] skittlebrau@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nano is more like fast food. It’s easy and convenient, but it makes you feel a little guilty and dirty afterwards.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nano is the tool that people use when they don't have a need for TUI editors in general and therefore don't want to have to memorize how people with teletypes decided things should have been done 75 years ago and who also don't want to get dragged into endless pointless bickering arguments about which set of greybeards was objectively right about their sets of preferences.

I'm glad people enjoy the editors they use and also I just wanna change a single fuckin line in a config file every once in a while without needing to consult a reference guide.

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[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And yet Emacs users don't fight vim users. Emacs users decided vim's interface was pretty cool and added it to Emacs. Somehow people still call it a war though.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Bruh 😂 the Emacs user community absolutely constantly shit on Vim users. When they added Vi(m) bindings they literally named it 'evil mode', and they constantly make fun of people who use it, and spacemacs, and the latest flavor of (neo)vi(m), and all the extensions necessary to make vim halfway useful as an ide, etc etc etc.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 155 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I once fixed my bashrc file with libreoffice

[–] deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev 134 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I regularly fix my bashrc file with Notepad. I run it in Wine because I cbf to RealVNC from my Windows CE media server.

(n.b: None of this is real, I wrote it to upset people, I'm sorry)

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Well let me upset you.

Ive been helping my coworker on a call and he was sharing his screen. I told him to edit a file (add a line) on a linux box we develop and he copied the file to his windows host with winscp, edited it in notepad and copied it back. I fantasize about killing him ever since.

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Integrated Mevelopment Environment. You should have known this

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 89 points 2 months ago (11 children)
[–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I too use nano.

alias nano="vi -y"

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[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] callyral@pawb.social 49 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Vim is pretty easy for me because I'm used to it. Nano is very difficult to use for me because I've rarely used it.

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Sometimes you don't even have the luxury of nano. Any moderately advanced Linux user should probably learn the basics of vi. Just knowing how to insert text and save it can fix a system that's stuck in recovery. Even if it's just to add a comment in front of a line in a config file.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 36 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I’ve come to the conclusion, people who use vim just continue to do so out of a stubborn sense of pride for finally learning the key combinations.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

In my case it's not a sense of pride. I can't use anything other than Vim because I keep accidentally putting random incantations into my word documents.

"There once was a dduuuZQ:q!"

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[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

I mean, yeah, kind of. In the same way pilots fly planes out of a stubborn sense of pride for knowing what all the flight deck controls do.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I honestly learned it just because I hated having to change hand position to use a mouse.

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[–] bizdelnick@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Vim (or emacs, or any other advanced text editor) is much easier to use than nano when you need to do something more complex than type couple of lines.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Better? Maybe!

More efficient? Surley!

But easier?! Hell no! Easy means you can use it without a lot of training or studying. It is self explanatory. And there is no way on earth that vim is easier than nano. I don't need to know anything to use nano I need to check docs for hours before I can even start using vim

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

(...once you learn the bindings)

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You noobs. I just use combinations of cat piped to sed to edit my files, which are mainly lisp code.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Average vim user: vim is easy.

Also average vim user: literally hours of reading tutorial pages on how to use vim.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 27 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The Terminator is not here to kill you, its here to protect you from Emacs (which can change its form to anything).

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll say that I find easier to exit vim that to exit nano.

I don't know what ^ means. I just start pressing special keys until it doesn't the thing

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 22 points 2 months ago
[–] btp@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The best text editor is ‘$EDITOR’.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think you mean "$EDITOR". Gotta have that variable expansion.

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I started on Unix systems using Vim, so I find Nano to be the confusing editor. A Vim install is one of the first things I do on a new server.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 months ago (7 children)

In every post of this kind I am amazed at so many people using nano instead of micro which is SO MUCH BETTER while being the same thing at the same time.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When you help manage thousands of servers with vim and nano already installed, it's just faster to use one of those than installing something else nearly ever single time.

I prefer nano for quick edits of small files, but vim for hunting down things in larger files.

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

That's like the picture of a normal dude with Nano, a large Vim dude, a larger buff Emacs dude and an ever larger massive Ed dude.

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