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Seems to me that there might have been a better way to handle this.

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

Librarians don't make shit, and basically the only reason to be a librarian is because you believe in what libraries stand for.

If they're closing during those hours, they probably genuinely don't think they have a choice.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The move came after a year in which library staff complained about rampant misbehavior among rowdy teenagers at the library, Strezo said, including reports of teens lighting firecrackers, getting into fights, and disturbing peers who had come to study or relax after a long day at school.

There is a better way: parents can teach their kids fucking manners. Clearly some of them know how to behave in public, so why are the rest being such little shits?

[–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's hardly an actionable policy suggestion.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Indeed, it's not a policy issue.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] variants@possumpat.io 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What was the policy that made parents raise their kids right?

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] variants@possumpat.io 2 points 2 months ago

I apologize I came off as a troll, I was reading the comment thread about how parents should raise their kids and the response comment about the way parents raise their kids isn't a policy issue. I didn't see anything in the article about how a policy changed the way parents changed their kids behavior to fix the issue.

I believe we just talked past each other as the policy fixed the problem of bad behavior occurring in the library during those hours which is true.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

Who needs logic? They have strong feelings!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

I get where you're coming from, but I think anything concerning human behavior and how they use the services absolutely is a policy issue.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 months ago

Strezo said librarians had asked for more staff and better security measures, but haven’t gotten either.

Another group, much like educators, failed by our shit society.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm willing to bet that if I had rolled into a library and started tossing firecrackers around, I would have been arrested. There is a problem with petty crime on public property; why is there not a police presence? The reason the assholes keep doing this is because they don't experience any consequences, and just closing the doors isn't a consequence.

That would be the reactionary part of an appropriate solution. The preventative part would be to only allow library access to people over 18 with ID (at least during the hours they've instead decided to close the doors to everyone), unless accompanied by a parent or legal guardian.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

In general librarians are looking out for their communities the best they can with the meager resources provided. Libraries barely get funding to keep in books, much less security guards and lawyers. Who would enforce the age gating? Maybe it's an acab type of town, and closing the library for a spell is safer than calling the police. From the article they planned to put cameras in the library, which would help find-out come home to it's fuck-around.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Heck with some of our fellow Americans these days... causing a closure would be the entire point.