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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

right wing border policies, no raising the minimum wage, no women's rights, more police funding, nothing done about the environment, no universal healthcare here we come

would have motivated a lot of non and undecided voters if Obama and Biden both would have followed through when he campaigned on his progressive platforms but instead the Democrats are redder every election cycle

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 months ago

totes. when I think of those things and where we are now with reagan and bush and clinton and bush and obama and trump and biden. I always think how its from the biden and obama terms. 4sure. and im not going to put /s, oh wait. doh.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

Yea “no women’s rights” based on your opinion not the actual party policy…

The important thing is that no one votes given your take… right?

“Motivation” based on them, not your shitty takes?

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yes true. But if she wants to downplay it to get the vote of the centrist and mildly conservative rubes then so be it.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 20 points 2 months ago

It might be a balancing act as it’s important to keep the base energized and actually hit the polls too.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It makes more sense to adopt policies that are broadly popular than it is to play to "centrists". (Whoever those are. I've met very few people who don't want healthcare, are against jobs, etc. And the ones I have met are already firmly in the Trump camp, and there's nothing Harris could do to change that.)

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Centrists like the thought of a fair and equitable society but aren’t eager to have their taxes raised to accomplish it. That’s the attitude that’s ‘broadly popular’. Appeal to them, get elected, then try to get more progressive policy through congress.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Centrists can F OFF. Grow a spine.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Even if that's broadly popular among people who vote in elections. (Which I doubt but lets assume it is). It would be a lot better strategy to push for things that are a bit more radical and actually help people. That's how you go after the biggest block of disaffected voters who stopped voting or have never voted cause both parties don't do anything to really help the people.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Progressives always say this, and they are unfortunately always wrong. Face it, if you are progressive you won’t sit this election out. If you are centrist you might (or you’ll vote Trump).

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We really averted disaster electing Hillary Clinton in 2016, didn't we? It would have been terrible if Trump won, but luckily she dove to the center and it was, as always, a foolproof strategy.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

The point is that progressives voted for her. The narrative that Bernie-bros stayed home has been debunked several times. Relative to Biden in 2020, she was indeed missing the votes of centrists.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure these guys have run for national office, right?

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