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Similar to the time Soviet Russia wanted to join the anti-Soviet alliance which was trying to pretend wasn't made to plot against the soviets.

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[–] NOFF@lemmy.world 188 points 2 months ago (16 children)

So I'd get reddit content without having to deal with reddit's nonsense layout and terrible app? That sounds kinda nice actually.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago

Which makes me think they won't do that, at least until they realize their current plan won't work out in the long run. So far they've been going in the opposite direction by locking down everything:

  • killing off third party apps
  • making it difficult to access on old Reddit or mobile web
  • only letting search engines index the site if they pay
  • talk of paywalling subreddits
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[–] calabast@lemm.ee 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I meaaaan, while I did join Lemmy because I was sick of reddit the company's greedy decisions, I do miss the amount of users and content it has/generates. If reddit joining the fediverse meant they couldn't dictate what app I use to view their posts, I probably would enjoy being able to browse their content again.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can kinda already do that, apps like rdx, Stealth, and Geddit pull reddit content without using the API. You can't vote/comment, but you can still follow communities that have worthwhile content.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

~~I'LL~~ I WON'T BE BACK

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

We already have Lemmy.World no need for two of them

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 2 months ago

OK, I'll get stoned for saying this, but I'd welcome it if done properly.

It's a large user base, lots of niche communities.

The more complicated part would be moderation, as that's already a problem now. Also, resources may be a problem.

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I came to Lemmy because I disliked what Steve Huffman did to reddit.

I’d be completely fine with the users being here. I do miss the whole active community for every niche little thing part. If if federates that’d be neat.

It won’t, since greedy Steve Huffman can’t sell the fediverse to Google while screwing 3rd party devs and users that make it what it is. But I’d welcome it.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I miss the reddit I loved. Life is not the same anymore. I can't just google for anything reddit and find sources. The community was on a level never seen before or after. I too welcome all the people who made it great. Bots and ads and ads and ad bots can have their wasteland.

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.world already exists unfortunately

I do miss some of the subreddits though

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As long as it didn't pollute the fedi timeline with ads, AI slop and partnered posts, that'd be OK to me... (If someone worrying about our posts/comments being used by AIs, it's already happening even for those instances that does not federate with Threads; Proofs? Once I searched for my own username and I got surprised on how my fediverse posts are spread all across the results through federated instances that I never heard about, so if my fedi content shows on Google, it's certainly being fed to some AI datasets)

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

people just dont understand how public the fediverse is.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It is radically public. It's designed to broadcast your content to hundreds of other peoples' computers running all manner of different software which might then rebroadcast it to yet more. The whole architecture is oriented toward spreading things far and wide, and what tools exist to restrict the audience or retract content already shared are little more than polite suggestions.

That's not a flaw, but people using it should understand how it works so they don't run into surprises.

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The same way we dealt with threads. Defederation.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Add their instance to my block list

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 months ago

I'd be very down to be able to subscribe to a couple select subs back there.

But I'd also be a bit disappointed because several Reddit communities have fediverse versions that are just nicer to be in, and I'm not so sure they'd survive if people could just go interact with the reddit equivalents via federation.

it wont happen, that would basically be broadcasting reddit content to servers whose intention is to offer it up the public for free (no ads).

if we cant utilize their api without paying through the nose, there is zero chance theyll let activitypub do it for free.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

They can do what they want, but if they want my contribution, they play by our rules.

Free, public API to support 3rd party readers. None of this paid API extortion, ads, super upvote monetization nonsense. AI generated stupid discussion communities I will block on sight.

More vibrant and active niche communities I will be happy to receive but I do like things as they stand too.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wdym, reddit already joined fediverse, it's called lemmy.world.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Would be among the first to suggest a reddit-defederation pact to be honest.

Kinda like how peeps on Mastodon/Misskey/etc. have their anti-threads pact.

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[–] Alice@beehaw.org 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I'd be happy. I know Reddit as a whole sucks, but there are individual communities that still hold value. I miss active communities for niche crafts, I miss fandoms, and I miss actual life-changing shit like trans DIY, especially for countries outside the US.

I mainly stopped using Reddit because they killed third-party apps. If I could access Reddit from here, that'd be a pretty sweet deal for me.

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I would get banned from their instance for saying I approve of people physically fighting Nazis. It would be nice to have more people to fill out niche communities though.

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

For real tho I like this place better.

That's the same as asking how we would feel if Facebook decided to join the fediverse. The way instances reacted to that, would be the way they'd react to reddit, or twitter, or any of the enshitified tech giants.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

I'd use it again from my home instance. It would be a show of good faith that they're letting people integrate with their API again, even if that API is just the standard activity pub one.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Everyone would likely defederate from them, much in the same way that you all rushed to close the shutters upon Threads.

I also don't ever see this happening, unless Spez fucks up with Reddit so badly that it sparks a mass user exodus, much in the same way that Digg v4 sank any hopes of Kevin Rose remaining a successful tech entrepreneur.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

I'd start consuming content that originates on Reddit again, for one thing.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cool. Biggest reason I quit reddit was I hate was them enforcing their dumb layout. While there exists other reasons like powermods, If I can visit it through mastodon or lemmy; why not really?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Federating with Reddit completely idiotic for any Lemmy instance.

They will only gain limited traffic, and their userbase will be swamped by Redditors.

There is zero incentive for Lemmy admins to do this, and huge incentives not to do this.

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[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Poorly, I left for a reason.

[–] bradboimler@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

It wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't subscribe to any subreddits though.

[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they would do that unless Lemmy continues to grow to a point where it challenges Reddit. Then it becomes a technical issue. I don't think they can do that. It was one thing for threads to do it, being designed with that in mind from day 1, but it's completely different for Reddit to do it. There are so many features that just wouldn't make the jump, and so much content that would need to be reworked.

If they were going to do it, it would most likely be a clean break where you just can't access old Reddit content on Lemmy, but all their new stuff would be accessible.

I also just don't see them giving away their content like that after cracking down on the API how they did.

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This would be a horrible thing because, even if we get more communities here, reddit now would have the vast majority of the fediverse in their hands. It would only be a matter of time before reddit would pull a microsoft to try and extinguish it.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If they do, I surely wouldn't trust Spez to be acting in good faith. I would expect them to Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish the fediverse

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The best I've got is, it's complicated. I left reddit very purposely to avoid a lot of the corp side BS and the results of that on the user base. The number of bots and bought/paid accounts alone is enough of a reason not to go back. It's been getting pretty steadily worse for the last decade at least and while I think the fediverse is kind of toxic, I know for a fact from first hand experience that reddit is more so by a large margin. I want Lemmy to have more users and more communities. I miss reddit for the sheer number of niche communities that haven't moved over. I don't have time to start and moderate a community myself. But I don't want reddit here. I welcome users who want to follow the rules. I don't welcome wholesale reddit occupation of this space.

The best I've got is, it's complicated.

This should be my line!

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Long as none of them were given mod powers, nbd

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

lemmy.world is already federated

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

I would love it because there are subreddits I use a lot on reddit that don't have an active equivalent on lemmy at all.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I got banned from r/gaming for shit talking pedos. I don’t want these people here.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm here mostly because the implementation is superior. If Reddit was accessible directly from here, it'd be a total win-win imho.

It would also be a lose-lose for them, as it would open up their data to free-of-charge use via API without any benefit for them -- so it's not going to happen.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't want it myself because I think Reddit is super shitty now, but if their instance could be blocked I suppose it wouldn't matter.

That said I don't think they will. They'll remain in their walled garden until they're as obsolete as AOL became.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

It cannot because of copyright constraints. It sells it's data to others.

But look, if Reddit did, at least people could use third party and free apps.

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