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A Boring Dystopia

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This has always interested me, on an explorer's level, the ruins of the plants have always really stuck in my mind. Growing up, it was always spoken of in the context of "US automakers couldn't keep up with changing trends and they just lost it all" but that's not true at all. Almost all of the companies involved with these types of abandonments are doing great, in fact, better than ever. When things really did get dire for US automakers during the recession around 2009, the goverment simply bailed them out with tax dollars.

An excerpt from the video: "It's the excess of Capitalism. In some ways, people thought this was the failure of Capitalism but we could also see it as the success of Capitalism. The automobile industries got away like bandits. They got out of there, they took the money and left. They left the mess, they left a working class and a deteriorating environment for someone else to clean up."

As an older person now, I wonder how many more of these export moves can occur in industries before the people expected to buy the imported product can no longer afford to.

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[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago

Alternative title: When the city failed to diversify, people were left behind.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

AI will turn most cities in the world into Detroits within the next 10 years. You ain't seen nothing yet.

[–] schwim@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I disagree but we'll revisit the conversation in a decade as I added the task to my calendar so I'll talk to you in 2034.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I really do. But sadly I'm not terribly optimistic.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm with you on this one. There's still a ways to go, and AI development will have a lot of ups, downs, setbacks, and scary leaps forward. But over time the general trend will be advancement. It's like climate vs weather.

Here's a little bit of good news on this subject:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/10/business/brands-avoid-term-customers/index.html

[–] _____@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Economies are already in shambles and AI isn't even ready yet.

It's almost as if an infinitesimal fraction of humanity shouldnt hoard billions of dollars.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's one crucial link missing in your assessment: economies are in shambles mostly because of that infinitesimal fraction of humanity's efforts to hoard the wealth.

And note that I said wealth, not money: those are two completely separate things. Many of those billionaires have a lot more dollars than actual wealth.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Dollars only represent wealth insofar as they can be used for exploitation.