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Court says cis students can sue to avoid sharing a restroom with trans classmates (www.lgbtqnation.com)

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 114 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Why can't we just get rid of gendered restrooms altogether?

Just have a room with fully enclosed rooms for a toilet and then a common area for the sinks. Get rid of those stupid flimsy walls with cracks everywhere and two feet of space beneath the door and just have a bunch of individual rooms with a toilet in them. Guys can pee in a toilet, they don't need a uniral.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of bathrooms in Sweden are like this. It's so nice to be able to go to the bathroom without people peeking at you through the stall cracks and hearing your every movement.

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[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

There's at least one high school in Minneapolis that's done this. Apparently it's actually going really well.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Because the pearl clutchers won't let them.

[–] murtaza64@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My college dorm was like this. Every bathroom was ungendered. The stalls weren't fully floor to ceiling, but were slightly better than the average public bathroom. 99% of people got over it after a little culture shock at the very beginning (maybe 2-3 days).

There was still one women-only bathroom in my building; I believe it was for a few students who asked for religious consideration. No biggie though for almost every student.

It only led to one embarrassing moment for me: I (a guy) was singing Frank Ocean at the top of my lungs while showering. When I came out of the shower a girl was brushing her teeth and made eye contact with me and kind of snickered/giggled. Racewalked back to my room 💀

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[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I will not give up urinals. They're so much faster and more efficient. Have you SEEN the lines for women's restrooms?

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[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

I’ve starting to see more of those and I love them. They have shared sinks but closest for toilets. It’s nice.

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

As much as I agree, that will cost money, therefore it won't happen. I feel the only way a place will do anything that I beneficial to the end user/customer is if it is profitable for them.

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

“She believes that referring to another person using pronouns that do not correspond with that person’s biological sex is harmful to that person because it is false and harmful to herself because it forces her to lie by denying her religious beliefs and scientific evidence,” it continues.

Do you need another strand of pearls because you clutched the first one too hard, Karen?

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

No, but I could use some chalk. My brain hands were slipping during that round of mental gymnastics.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Someone should send her a box of white bead necklaces lmao

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can trans students sue to avoid sharing a restroom with cis classmates?

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

Can students sue to avoid sharing a restroom with bigots if that is against my religion?

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can I sue to avoid sharing a bathroom with anyone?

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

This seems to have some merit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would support this lawsuit. With an added provision that if it must be a shared public bathroom, if someone talks to you for a non-emergency reason: 10 years to life. Especially if they try to have an actual chat. That's just felonious.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can we have eye contact be a gross misdemeanor?

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (32 children)

There's no previous cases of assault or harassment of cis people by trans people for using the bathroom. Their fears are not valid. It's as valid as a student suing because they have a phobia of the color grey and can't be forced to use a bathroom that has any grey in it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The stupidest part to me is that cis women could also potentially assault other cis women in public restrooms but these bigots haven’t even considered that possibility.

Also, if you are a cis man and are just desperate to sexually assault a woman in a public restroom, I would think that a janitor’s uniform and a mop would be enough.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago

Cab I, a cis person, sue for being required to share a bathroom with other cis people?

I don't want to share bathrooms, thank you. That's a violation of my religious beliefs (in my religion, pooping is a sin).

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

Why are we letting conservatives into public restrooms? They are notorious child-rapists and are known to attack innocent people in bathrooms if they don't like the look of them.

There is no room for conservatism or other hate-based ideologies in a modern civilization.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Sounds a bit like the ol' 'gay panic' defense.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like Jim Crow era segregation

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

That's exactly what it is. "These children could be raped by a trans person!" Or they could be raped by a cis person. Of their own gender or another gender.

In general, it's not hard to find a time to sneak into a bathroom when no one's looking. It's not like they're usually in some prominent place.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cool, they want to return to separate but equal. Fucking weirdos.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they're interested in the "equal" part at all.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

It never was equal, tho. Thats just the mantra they used to justify the segregation

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

“She believes that referring to another person using pronouns that do not correspond with that person’s biological sex is harmful to that person because it is false and harmful to herself because it forces her to lie by denying her religious beliefs and scientific evidence,” it continues.

I hate this argument. I’m conservatives and I will try to use the pronouns of choice. To me it’s just being polite. It’s like a name preference. You try to respect it. If you religion teaches you to be an asshole to everyone then it’s time to rethink your religion.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

The American right: "I am so aroused by pissing and shitting and farting that I cannot pee downward if trans children are in earshot of me!"

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is amazing how few problems people have that they have the time and energy to spend on non issues like this.

[–] ChaoticGoodHeart@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

America is a nation full of people with nothing to complain about, complaining about nothing.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

Nah, I am be a Swede, but I can definately see that Americans have stuff to complain about.

The problem is that the right people are complaining about the wrong thing.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can the trans students sue for being harassed and bullied? That would be great

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

My daughter has a very close trans friend (who the school forces to use the girl's room anyway). A girl was being a bigot to him in the bathroom, so he slapped her. Guess who did not get in trouble?

Hint: not the openly queer one.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Okay fine, fine, the boys don't have to share a bathroom with trans girls anymore.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just a reminder that you can sue for just about anything. That doesn't mean you have a chance in hell of winning.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Simple protest is just smash urinals or pour something like concrete into them. After a couple repairs, they will just start replacing them all with stalls... then there will be no difference between bathrooms.

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