this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2024
68 points (100.0% liked)

TechTakes

1432 readers
99 users here now

Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

This is not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

For actually-good tech, you want our NotAwfulTech community

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 10 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] gerikson@awful.systems 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wow, that entire article is so interesting. To be honest, I'm slowly coming around to cheering for people with low incomes in developing countries destroying Facebook.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 months ago

may i interest you in 120mm mortar, it destroys facebook server rooms more directly and probably with less carbon trace

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's good, honest spam like in the good old days. Not like those dreadful Kremlin disinfo campaigns kids are into now.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago

97-year old spammer still rakes in attention economy revenue the old fashioned way.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Within the ad manager, they upload an image that has been modified to look like a Facebook gallery post (there are tools for this), and then they delete the headline and description that is autogenerated by Facebook to make it look like the ad is just an image and not a link. Then, they generate a preview for their ad. This creates a preview link, which can then be pushed to their phone (it has to be a separate device), then shared to their own personal Facebook page as a “test.” From there, the link can be grabbed and shared to a page as a normal post, even though it is not a published ad, meaning that, to do this trick, you do not actually have to spend any money.

I don't think it's what I was supposed to get out of the article, but... this is so cool....... Honestly I'm in awe.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago

to get on my developing-nation[0] soapbox for a little bit: it is, and it's also hilarious how often this sort of shit happens with things developed by people who you could largely handwave as "their smallest computer is a 3yo max-spec mbp" (I know this isn't precise but ygwim). "talk to your users" is obviously useful and it's often largely clear that a lot of these orgs don't, but it's even more clear in places further down the economic ladder. the one thing people in such markets often have is bucketloads of time. I do like that the phrasing used in the article was "you do not actually have to spend any money" rather than calling it "free" - this is still work. but you will readily find maaaaaany people who will do this sort of thing

[0] - speaking from experience, large consideration in stuff I have to design for in services

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

bigger picure:

so, fb puts a premium on views, because they sell ads like every senator should know by now, and views mean more eyeballs on ads, which means more money. over time this metric became more important to zucc than actual revenue, it seems, but it's not actually important because they rake so much money either way. they like views so much they decided to give a cut of that ad revenue to select ~~spammers~~ content creators in ~~spammer welfare~~ content creators program. but then again, because of ritual firings in name of Line Go Up fb has no actual moderation so actual high volume spam spreads everywhere

in the other part of the same creatively bankrupt torment nexus in the name of Line Go Up after so many AI winters someone decided to spin up this brain damaged hype train up again. its main utility seems to be 1. manufacturing hype for VCs and stock holders, and 2. mass production of spam. because it's never repeats it passes many automated spam filters, like the above

managerial corporate ghouls, completely isolated from normal human experience, in pursuit of new numbers to put on their weekly powerpoint presentations and ammo for their office politics created a machine that boils oceans, surveils every box on the internet and corrodes everybody's attention span, with for now tiny and short lasting side effect of generating shrimp jesus and paying some broke people a livable wage for generating shrimp jesus. that and scammy guides and mentors who grew on top of this, selling shovels for selling shovels for selling shovels

how many layers away from real economy are we now? business gives a cut of profits to ad company, which gives a cut of profits to facebook (that also rakes investor money), which gives a cut of profits to spammers, which give a cut of profits to people who build and maintain spamming automation tools like fewfeed. nothing of this is concerned with making actual things people want to use

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

on the other hand, we do get a lot of pretty ladies with bizarre anatomy, so who's to say if it's good or bad

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 months ago
[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

That was fascinating... kinda like shining a bright light through the side of a boil. Repulsive, but still neat.