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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 91 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I love how this will gain traction, but when we talk about banning the Dutch guy who literally fucked a child, everyone is like, "But they can change..."

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for banning the dutch guy.

also all for booing the dutch guy until he refuses to show his face again.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In some ways I feel bad for his volleyball partner, whose only other choice would have been to walk away from the Olympics.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I did. Then he opened his mouth.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yes the offenses are disproportionate, but the problem with doping is it directly undermines the integrity of the sport. same with gambling.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How many kids do you get to diddle before you undermine the sport?

[–] Crow_Thief@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does diddling kids affect competitive integrity?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Being forced to compete on the same team with or against a convicted pedophile would certainly distract me, and would likely degrade the audience's experience as well. Seems like a bad thing for sports.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We all get what you're saying dude. Doesn't mean there isn't a distinction. What you're describing is an indirect effect on competitive integrity, which might be an arbitrary difference for viewers but for the IOC it's a legitimate distinction.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Great! There is a distinction.

I. Don't. Care.

Ban the pedos.

I don't get why this is an argument. Why are we even discussing this? I feel like it should be a given. Question 1 on your Olympic Entry Exam: Have you, as an adult, had sex with someone who did not or could not consent?

You can put every other question about doping and ethics after that one, because if they get hung up on Question 1, they shouldn't be allowed to represent their country on a national stage. There are others that can answer that question in the negative that can take up the spot for their country.

It doesn't matter what distinctions there are between doping and fucking kids, we need to, as a species, stop putting pedophiles on pedestals. Don't buy their albums, don't watch their movies, and don't give them medals in the Olympics. They can work the fryer at McDonalds to support their wasted existence.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

No one was arguing with you from the beginning. We're just saying there's a distinction and the IOC probably views it like that.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I will never understand the 8 downvotes you have. Ban the pedos shouldn't be controversial.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

that's why I said "directly". I agree other issues can indirectly undermine the sport as well.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago

Judging by the fact that smash is still popular, quite a lot, actually.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is this everyone you're talking about here?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Everyone in all of the threads that were discussing the dutch pervert a few days ago. "He went to jail, he is reformed, etc..."

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Let's ban the Dutch guy, and also the rest of the Dutch, until they reform their horrendous laws there, so that child rapist actually get some kind of punishment, rather than the tiniest slap on the wrist.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Phelps was actually so good that he needed to slow his performance down with bongloads and Subway sandos so people wouldn’t assume he was doping.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And Usain Bolt ate exclusively McDoods Nugs.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IIRC, the reason he gave is they're consistent pretty much anywhere in the world. Last thing you want before an event is food poisoning.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

with all the calories they’re burning they can afford it anyway. i vaguely remember phelps talking about his usual daily meals being like stacks of chocolate chip waffles, and not chicken breast with salad as you might expect.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's both, not one or the other. Dude was trying to get 8,000+ calories a day and also huge amounts of protein at the same time

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

it's important that people understand you can't mainline one type of intake when trying to both sustain the workouts/competition going on and preparing for a big meet. Not only does it get monotonous your body needs fats to refresh the digestive track and propel all that protein and carbs through the intestines. Trying that on a homogenous diet would be miserable.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Track Star Sha'Carri Richardson had to give up a gold medal after she tested positive for THC following a match.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about things that may or may not constitute doping? Someone with some cold meds still in their system or who huffed oxygen before competition? Someone taking meds for a known condition that still had trace amounts in their system on the day?

There are many situations in which someone may have a foreign substance in their body that could provide advantage where they may be unaware that the substance is still lingering at competition time.

Not to mention, you’ll get people eliminating the competition by slipping them a mickey before the event….

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someone with some cold meds still in their system or who huffed oxygen before competition?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-olympics/37703011 it's already happened. She got some cold medicine from her doctor while in Italy.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you can also get therapeutic exceptions ahead of time.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How far ahead of time would you have to be, though? Colds and other common ailments are known for coming on quite suddenly and with little warning, after all..

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

yeah I was just saying it's not all done after the fact. People with known conditions can get exceptions. And issues with colds etc are reviewed, it's not like an automatic DSQ.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

True. An example from another sport is road race cyclist Bo Hamburger who got an exemption because he had asthma.

Apparently the same inhaler that helps asthmatic people breathe helps non-asthmatic people breathe TOO well or something along those lines lol

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IIRC all the norwegian xcountry skiers have asthma. Amazing that they can still dominate the sport, despite their illness.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Conclusion: cross country skiing excellence causes asthma.

As for Norwegians dominating cross country skiing, that's as close to a natural law as you get in sports 🤷😄

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 3 months ago

I mean honestly if it can be proved someone cheated in any competition knowingly then they should be banned.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 months ago

His hair looks like it's on upsidedown.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But then there is no one left.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

For a while

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

All we had to do to get rid of sports was to rigorously attempt to make them fair? Wow. Sports are DAF.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weed is not a performance enhancing drug lol

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Oh right I didn't mean that I mean the PEDs that all top level athletes use

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