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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hate that episode so much. Apart from the "planet of the black people" episode, it's the worst one of the first season. Just totally un-Star Trek.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They said “Make Wesley guilty of a crime and have the Enterprise crew figure out how to clear his name.” And wrote the script backwards from there.

A plot that would make more sense on The Brady Bunch.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

“Shut up, Marcia!”

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TNG had some amazing episodes and some terrible ones, but this one is near the very bottom. As someone else said, it felt like the writing process was a "let's make Wesley guilty and figure out how they get him out of it" and they worked backwards from there.

The law on the planet is stupid and it feels like they are violating the prime directive just by being there because the civilization can't be warp-capable. They don't know they're being ruled by a computer in orbit because they think it's a god. The lady Picard terrifies by beaming onto the satellite made that clear.

So basically even their presence on the planet is pretty inexcusable

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Prime Directive is not just a set of rules. It is a philosophy, and a very correct one. History has proved again and again that non interference should be inversely proportional to how hot the native species is.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I really cannot come up with an ethical reason for them to be on that planet openly as Starfleet officers.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Can we take a moment and appreciate that actor putting up with that brutal sunburn?

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 21 points 3 months ago

Ouch right. I never noticed during the episode. Poor dude.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Ugh, yeah. They were probably out there filming for hours.

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First time seeing on TV men wearing slutier clothes than women

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Truly a star trek moment.

Speaking of, I just rewatched that TNG episode where they visit the matriarchal society where all the women are domineering and the men are more passive. It's hard not to laugh when Riker shows off his culturally appropriate one-nipple-tastefully-out outfit.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The earring really sells it too.

Marina is clearly enjoying it as well. The episode is "angel one" if anyone wants to join her.

[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

"make it so" would have been a much better punchline for the 3rd panel 😂

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"but, I..."

"Shut up, Wesley!"

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

A real captain of properly caffeinated disposition (Janeway) would not tolerate such ensign bullshit, 10/10 would take the chance and leave him there. Perhaps aid the prosecutors/police to make sure.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure you don't want to execute ensign Kim also?

Mam, nobody of that name has stepped foot on this planet

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

The fucker was literally back on Earth & still managed to nag his way back.

Also didn't they actually want to fire him from the show? Oh, that was prob about Paris.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

At that "being angry is punishable with death" planet, she didn't go that way.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She had no qualms aiding the termination of crewmembers.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only the ones that deserved it.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Say what you want, that strange flowery leopard pattern was a crime

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I don't believe there exist arguments against that being a crime, in any era.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m not a fan of Wes because i always thought he whined a lot but let me get some Wil Wheaton action any day of the week.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He did get to kiss Ashley Judd so they didn’t do him too dirty.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They dated outside the show as well.

Makes sense, as they had great chemistry on screen together.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Agreed. I enjoy him in other things. Even as a kid. He was good in Stand By Me and I loved him in Eureka when he was older.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't actually know. I found it on Tenor.com a long time ago

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well now I'm going to spend half the day trying to figure it out.

Edit: Or 5 seconds. It was in The Big Bang Theory.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Haha. I think we found out from the same link at the same time.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago

Plot twist he hasn't even been down to the surface

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Death by Snu Snu?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

By the way, Wil Wheaton was 15 when that episode was on. That "there are some games I'm not ready to play yet" line was bullshit. He would be down to pound town so fast he never would have crashed into the greenhouse while catching a ball.

Those people fucked enough for 10 Risas.