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[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 205 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Americans actually do shoot quite well, but the rules around gun handling are incredibly strict for Olympic shooting.

Things like minor celebrations, emotion, or even the cadence of your walk while leaving the range can cause disqualification.

Since American shooters can't hit a bullseye without shotgunning a beer and magdumping into the sky as eagles carry exploding fireworks in celebration, they often do not place in Olympic shooting

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago

"I can tolerate precision shooting, but I draw the line at emotional regulation!"

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Or in other words, what's missing from our country's gun use is respect.

The vast majority of our issues with gun violence is the fact that we disrespect guns almost as much as each other, they're just another crass tool for achieving a feeling, like power, masculinity, reassurance and comfort. So then guess what happens when you flood the streets with more guns than every other developed nation combined?

We are a nation of undisciplined shooters, they may shoot "quite well" in some cases, but for every shooter who does quite well at hitting a target you have several thousand who have no idea how to shoot, AND have no clue about gun safety, respect and responsible ownership.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Well, sure, but you don't send a random selection of citizens to the Olympics. You send the best.

The nation with the most gun owners per capita and a huge population should have many pinnacle-tier shooters, even if it also has many bad ones. So the question is, why aren't they at the Olympics?

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly? Opportunity. It starts with money, or willingness for you or your parents to give up everything that isn't training.

I was in the service with some incredible shots. I've been on the range with some pretty incredible shots. Most of them would never have the opportunity for any number of reasons.

Some of that comes down to simply money. Flavor Flav is sponsoring our women's water polo team because some of them were working three jobs while training to stay afloat. Not everyone wants to or even can do that.

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[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 137 points 3 months ago

The real reason

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 99 points 3 months ago (17 children)

In fairness, you see that chick from South Korea?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

I will never have that kind of swagger

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I definitely would not want to be the guy who tried to mug her.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Remember that in modern countries she wouldn't be allowed to carry that

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That grip on that thing is crazy.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It looks like they took a wooden block and CNC'd her hand shape into it and nothing else. I'd like to see it from the other side.

[–] theatomictruth@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Something like this

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

she looks like an arena shooter character.

i bet she can go partially invisible for 20 seconds with a cooldown of 7 and throws mad stun bombs

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[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You don't gotta aim to bit a crowd of kids at a school.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Shots and prayers 🙏

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

That's what an extended mag is for ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes classroom training doesn't translate.

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[–] p3n@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Not to take anything anyway from the Olympic athletes who are incredibly talented at their sport, but their sport doesn't resemble the practical shooting of real guns.

There are actual competitons for that, such as the International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC) world shoots. The U.S. is much better represented in these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPSC_Handgun_World_Shoots

[–] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 44 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Classic Americans, making up our own rules and sucking at following the rest of the world lol

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

True but it looks like the IPSC is international as well, and the most awards are held by a French man, so US kinda sucks a little at that too.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

mfw the shooting venue wasn't a school

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sucks that there are no schoo children and black people available as targets.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pfft. I used to bulls-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

Stop bragging and go over to Tosche Station. We're totally out of power converters.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

American shooting is a lot more flash than precision.

Legitimately there's a category of shooting sports that's about the most efficient use of WWI trenchgun style slam firing, which is basically abusing the reload speed on that class of shotgun to convert it into a semi-auto.

We literally made a sport out of what the enemy tried to get classed as a war crime as an act of spite and you're wondering why we not so good at traditional marksmanship? It's a level of decorum that America was basically founded as a fuck you against.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Legitimately there’s a category of shooting sports that’s about the most efficient use of WWI trenchgun style slam firing, which is basically abusing the reload speed on that class of shotgun to convert it into a semi-auto.

For those who aren't sure what slamfiring a shotgun is

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they had a mass shooting category we would cleanup. Who wants to shoot just one bullet at a time

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Where Americans lack in quality, they make up in quantity.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (22 children)

Competition shooter here. Olympic shooting is boring as hell.

Americans place really well in IPSC, USPSA, and 3gun.

The IPSC rifle world shot is happening right now in Finland.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

USPSA

It would be a little strange if Americans didn't place well in United States Practical Shooting Association competitions

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Olympic shooting is just a different beast. Look at the differences in scores; it's fractions of a point, in most cases. Air guns simply aren't popular in the US, while they're one of the very few options open to most people outside of the US. And, TBH, there's not a lot of support for the Olympic shooting sports in the US, aside from possibly trap.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can picture the American shooters just doing pray and spray and drive bys

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

That’s why muricans need assault rifles.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We’re good shooting at crowds, not in front of them on display. Just makes it too weird.

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[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even Guatemala got their first ever gold metal and it was on shooting and she broke the Olympic record.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Nice! Congratulations, Guatemala!

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We love shooting guns, doesn't mean we're any good at accuracy!

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Don't worry. They just wrapped up the Presidential Candidate leg of the competition. School is up next and we're expected to have a strong showing.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not fair, they won't even allow pre-ban machine guns firing tracer bullets in five round bursts.

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[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Olympic shooting has nothing to do with shooting of any other kind. The guns are custom made. Unless you are speficially training for the Olympics you'll likely never handle such a "weapon". I think using these guns is the equivalent to a running being able to use spring blades. I am not a gun owner but it feels like a pointless sport as done.

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[–] CodeHead@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No no... America has always been about quantity over quality. This proves that.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

At Olympic competition you just don't have black people or school children as targets. Which is a severe disadvantage for American shooters.

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

They need to pack the targets in bunches of 20-25 and house them at an elementary school if you want these mouthbreathers to show interest😉

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