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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 87 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm one of the four in ten I guess that isn't surprised, just disappointed.

[–] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's a vague question for a poll. One can interpret it in a few ways and I'd count myself part of the four as well. The US progresses as if it's walking through quicksand, so it's really unsurprising to me.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Yeah do they mean “surprised” as in they didn’t know, or surprised as in they are disappointed it hasn’t happened yet?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Surprised is the wrong word. Angry is the right word.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I think a lot of them are surprised because they can buy cannabis legally in their state and they haven't thought more about it than that.

A lot of people are not especially politically aware.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

"What? How did this butt plug appear in my butthole without my consent??? To be honest, I am a bit surprised...."

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

What if they are surprised because they were pearl clutching so hard they thought it was gonna be worse?

[–] hark@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It was legalized federally in Canada in 2018, so it'll probably be around 2028 when it's legalized federally in the US, just like it took a decade for the US to legalize gay marriage after Canada did it.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lets see how long we'll get to keep it with a MAGA SCOTUS majority. Kim Davis already started the process to get it up to them and Thomas will definitely be a no.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How would SCOTUS even be able to rule that marijuana has to be illegal, when Congress repealed the law making it illegal? That is not how law works.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh I was talking about the latter (marriage equality)

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Different culture. Canada is far more liberal than the United States.

But with the ongoing migration crisis and continuing stupidity of Trudeau administration, I'm afraid that the momentum gained for the Canadian right to eventually become mainstream.

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Don't worry, when we eventually get basic human needs down such as universal healthcare and other social welfare, worker's rights, and liveable non-car dependent infrastructure, I'm sure everyone will start moving to the US instead of Canada and you'll be saved. I give it... a few decades, when the climate catastrophe starts becoming apparent.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

THCA is legal in all but a handful of states that have specifically outlawed it. Eight horses hemp, flow gardens, and plenty of other online vendors. It will show up in your mailbox with no issue. I'm in Texas and i get an ounce delivered on subscription every month. If you prefer vapes to flower, check out secret garden.

[–] batcheck@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The problem is you still fail drug tests for work or for certain medications (like adderall) when consuming THCA. I’m lucky and my job doesn’t test and I know when my doctor will test me. But it’s not a comfortable feeling knowing it could be used against you in a bunch of scenarios.

Playing the will this bite me game with a drug most of us agree should just be legal by now sucks.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

....why is your doctor drug testing you?

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If you take certain scheduled medications, like Adderall, your doctor or (more likely) your insurance provider can require a drug test before renewing the prescription.

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My doctor okayed THC use for me (to wind down at night), so i test positive for that + adderall. Ask, it might be okay

Its 100% crazy bullshit that we're tested like this

[–] batcheck@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

My doctor is aware of my THC use. I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult. I was essentially self medicating with THC to control some of the symptoms that come along with ADHD like anxiety. I could not start on adderall until I tested clean of THC. Took 2.5 months of being without THC and repeated trips to my doctors office and getting tested before I passed (the Amazon test strips were not as sensitive as the doctors office one).

Overall I’d pick adderall over THC any day. But the truth is both together is even better. Adderall during the day and THC (well THCA in my state) to wind down at night. It’s just lame to have to spend 2 months a year having to stop THC to finally feel like I’m happy the rest of the 10 months of the year.

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is nuts. I have to take these tests once or twice a year, but not once has my medication been held hostage over marijuana. I live in NY though, which is a mix of sane laws, personal freedoms, social safety nets, somewhat high taxes, and I can't do what now due to the assholes in NYC???

Either way, it sucks that we are treated like junkies to be prescribed life saving medication that we cannot be addicted to.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's probably because Adderall is a controlled dose of amphetamine.

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Thats incredibly frustrating.

I take adderall for narcolepsy, and my docs office says its pretty well understood that many people need help to wind down off stimulants.

I hope it gets easier.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why don't you just take one of those 'cleaners' before your drug test? You essentially drink a ton of water to dilute your pee and the solution adds all the components back to make it look like you didn't dilute your pee.

[–] batcheck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Did a ton of reading on that. It’s very hit or miss. It’s a similar approach to creatine loading and then drinking a large amount before a drug test. Some places also make you retake the test if your pee is too diluted. At the end, the adderall is more important to me. It helps me be a better father and husband. The THC is mostly to help me sleep and have a few hours not anxiously trying to make plans for every possible outcome in my work week (which tends to not be useful).

Until the government gets their act together (and I mean all of them, the democrats also have holdouts on the topic), I’m stuck doing this in the state I live in. Moving isn’t an option as our family, jobs and support structure is all here.

Thanks for the advice though. I appreciate people trying to help a person out and I genuinely mean it. I think we have too many old school and old fashioned people in office on both sides of the isle and hopefully that will resolve itself in the upcoming years.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone who lives in Europe, and in one of the countries stricter on drug laws (Norway), this seems too fucked up to me. You need to get drug tested for meds??

I take ritalin which is also a scheduled drug, and I didn't do anything like this.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Someone told me recently that it's to prove the person prescribed the adderall is the one who is actually taking it (to prevent resale).

Edit: rereading the thread I realize you might be questioning why they're being drug tested for THC regarding their adderall prescription. I don't have an answer for that so, if that was your actual question, I apologize for the confusion.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Find a doctor that understands the difference between using cannabis therapeutically, and actual life-ruining, physically addictive drugs.

Be up front right away. Tell them that it's essentially medicine for you, and without it, whatever you are seeing them for (presumably ADHD) gets exacerbated.

Don't get defensive if they bring up the psychological addiction to cannabis. Freely admit that you may rely on it psychologically at times, and maybe ask them if they drink coffee every morning (or if they have a problem with you drinking coffee every morning).

Literally every single person in rehab for actual serious drug addiction, lives on caffeine and nicotine. It's all a massive double standard. The only difference is that, while medicating you, cannabis can also make you feel good (but usually not good and productive), and there's this puritanical concept that this somehow makes it inherently bad and dangerous

Anyway, find a doctor that understands this. They exist.

Then go on and test positive for cannabis monthly, it's quite freeing. As long as you don't give them any reason to be concerned about your cannabis intake, then they likely won't bother you about it much again. Maybe mention it every few months.

[–] ealoe@ani.social 0 points 3 months ago

Those drug tests are a bit different though, you're supposed to fail them so you can prove you were taking the Adderall yourself not selling it.

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

like adderall

Finally, something good comes out of my ADHD. I'm invincible against THCA drug tests!

(I'm kidding)

[–] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you shouldn't use weed if it's gonna create a problem for your job, healthcare or life, but there's plenty of it out there if you do choose to partake.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It will show up in your mailbox with no issue.

This is the part that absolutely blows my mind. I gather they're avoiding sending product across state lines?

[–] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. The 2018 farm bill that legalizes it is federal. DEA tried to say thca doesn't count as hemp because it converts to Delta 9 with age and heat, but the court said the law means what it says - less than. 3% Delta 9 is hemp. Most of my purchases come from the Pacific Northwest i think, which is funny because some of those states are/are trying to outlaw hemp because it's the same as what you get in a dispensary, but without the government oversight, lot numbers, etc. so it cuts into the traditional cannabis companies and taxes.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That's amazing. Thank you for the info.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I'm sure 6 in 10 Americans don't understand that federal law trumps state law.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I'd be interested to see a map showing the states where weed is illegal, crossed with one showing where child marriage is legal.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

They’ll need to vote more Democrats into Congress for that to happen. The stalled bill has 113 Democratic cosponsors and Matt Gaetz.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk why it has been stuck so long in the Executive branch for review.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because the dumb system of rescheduling just works this way.

The DEA shouldn't even be in the bureaucratic pathway. They're cops, and they shouldn't have a say in what counts as medicine. The FDA is far from perfect, but they are the scientists.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the DEA is the only entity at the Federal level that cares about marijuana. Drug warriors are gonna drug war.

[–] aquafunk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 months ago

The DEA's administrative law judge already said it shouldn't be Schedule I, after a lengthy review, and (surprise!) the DEA administrator ignored them. What a genius system; leave it up to the person wielding power to be the one making the final decision to wield less power 🤦

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Also can we get our student loans forgiven, punish the exopresident Trumpfus for the jan6 thing, limit the justices to like 5 years, remove all religious terms and uses from government docs and processes...etc...many other things that are much more relevant than the stickiest plant one could ever have imagined anyone would ever try to smoke.

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I forget the math but it should actually be 18 years for the justices so they can't all get swapped out

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you probably don't want 8 because a two term president could do lots of damage. So 18 sounds fine. It should be retroactively implemented, let's say 2 of the current judges per year?

[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

I hear you, but consider it goes well beyond the sticky plant - simply possessing marijuana in many areas of the US can still get you thrown in jail. With many of those same states enforcing "mandatory terms" for drug crimes, we have thousands of people jailed for years for non-violent offenses. We have a lot of huge issues to deal with, but the "War on Drugs" from the start was a thin veil for persecuting minorities, and it's still going.

I'm hoping for the rest of your list of requests, too, but personally I think federal weed legalization would have a wider-reaching, far more profound impact on our population than forgiving student loans.

[–] throbbing_banjo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

The leaf in that photo has some serious deficiencies going on, just saying.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

And yet 5/10 keep electing fuckwits.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Those 6 in 10 probably all live in legal states and are just used to it. Be careful where you drive with it though.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

14.6 in 10 Americans are 'Surprised' they don't have universal healthcare yet, poll finds

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

The US tackles it's tech debt