this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2024
95 points (90.6% liked)

Political Memes

5232 readers
1817 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world
Rooki@lemmy.world
automodbeta@lemmy.world
Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world
rjc@lemmy.world
Tenthrow@lemmy.world
JonsJava@lemmy.world
95
Who do think will be VP? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 month ago by Godric@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
30 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
top 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Shapiro is an attorney. Yawn.
Kelly is an engineer at heart, and a highly praised, disciplined, and decorated one at that.

Consider me biased as an engineer myself, but considering Harris is already an attorney, having a greater diversity of specialization at the top will go a long ways towards the functionality of their administration.

And, honestly, we're in an optics war at this point. Kelly is the pick for optics. They don't let just anyone become astronauts, he has a PR presence nationally that predates this election, and he can lean a lot on his honorable Air Force career to boot.

Also, when I hear the last name "Shapiro" the only cunt I can think of is Ben...

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I don't know anything about US politics, but I like the engineer guy too

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If this was intended to make Shapiro look good, this proves the point on Kelly in a way.

For my low-info battleground state uncle, all I need to say is, "Kelly is an astronaut and navy fighter pilot. He's a moderate" that's it.

Shapiro brings charisma but my uncle won't actually see that charisma ever anyway. I have no one-sentence bite-sized argument for him.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah this is the real problem. Anyone who is somehow undecided after 4 years of Trump is gonna need to be convinced in a single sentence with small words or it's gonna go right over their head.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kelly would be cool as fuck.

Shapiro would make me feel better about this election.

I think Kamala will choose one of these two and have a pretty good chance of winning either way, so I don't really care.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I am not against Kelly at all so let me preface with that before I say the following: it is so bizarre to me how there was such an insane purity test/demonization of any moderate stance for any potential Democrat candidate on lemmy yet a moderate such as Kelly is handwaved away with “but astronaut” lol

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"But Astronaut" is a pretty damned high bar in many people's views, in large part because of the stringent qualifications. They're also the very few that actually get to experience the Overview Effect.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I get all that but like…being an astronaut doesn’t just overwhelm all other considerations lol

Anyway I like the dude. It’s just wild watching all the cheerleading for a very moderate, totally not-progressive VP pick “because astronaut.” I’m sure there are/were astronauts who are/were shitty people lol

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I get all that but like…being an astronaut doesn’t just overwhelm all other considerations lol

Gabby Giffords as Second Lady would be a great addition that comes included with a Kelly pick.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right, but it's also not the only non-traditional qualifier though. For many people the fact that the Second Lady would be Gabby Giffords is also a consideration. Between the two of them, they've been on a national stage for a long time.

For many people, this Is one of the first times they're really hearing about Shapiro, and the fact there's a dipshit on the MAGA side with the same last name, well that just complicates average voter perception. Name recognition and differentiation is massive for the voters that don't follow politics constantly.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe I’m out of touch but I don’t think 99%+ of the country could name a single Second Lady besides those who became First Ladies later and I imagine most people can’t name any First Ladies other than Jill Biden, and/or Hillary Clinton, and/or Michelle Obama, and/or Nancy Reagan. Hillary Clinton for obvious reasons deserves an asterisks on that list.

I’m sure they’re great campaigners sometimes but I really don’t see a Second Lady having a meaningful impact on an election unless they’re already a household name and even then I’m skeptical.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's kind of my point though. Gabby Giffords was a US Representative that was thrust into the national spotlight when she survived an assassination attempt in 2013 at a public Town Hall.

Unlike most political spouses, she was actually the politician of the couple before Mark Kelly ran in 2020. He's actually very new to politics directly.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s a good point and I feel bad for forgetting about that

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In fact, I hadn't even considered the Giffords assassination attempt as a foil against Trump's use of his own in his campaign advertising.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh shit that’s also a good point

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

“But Astronaut” is a pretty damned high bar in many people’s views, in large part because of the stringent qualifications.

And then you have stuff like this.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Beshear: "hold my bourbon balls"

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

What about Beshear?

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shapiro.

Nothing against Kelly, and nothing against the state of Pennsylvania, but I'd rather free up a Democrat-held governorship of a single state than a Democrat-held senator seat in congress, which is already at razor thin margins.

Both Arizona and Pennsylvania are swing states, so I can only consider which option I'd be least thrilled to see a Republican fill the vacancy since there would be a good chance of that happening in either situation.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Arizona Senate seat would be filled by the Governor for the remainder of the current session. The current governor is a Democrat, but even if she was not, AZ law requires the appointment to be from the same party.

The seat has no chance of changing hands until the next regular election either way.

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kelly being VP would actually trigger a special election in 2026.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Kelly's seat is up for reelection in 2026 regardless. He was elected in 2020 and Senate seats are 6 year terms.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

With Kelly you get Giffords 👍🏼

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Kelly > Shapiro 🤘🏼🗳️

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Wary*

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm just going to leave this here.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is indeed part of the calculations!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, they have 39,000 dead Palestinians to assuage their bloodlust, with a few tens of thousands more to come from starvation. Forgive me if I don't immediately cast my thoughts to the plight of poor, downtrodden AIPAC. The last thing the Israeli lobby needs is more influence in the Executive branch.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Theyre both pretty awful