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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 77 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Print photos of different couches and mail them to any or all of these locations:

https://www.vance.senate.gov/office-locations/

Don’t forget to add little love notes. e.g., “Thinking of you 💋”

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

While I appreciate the effort, mods are probably gonna get mad if you keep commenting this on every post. Some of the ones you commented on don’t seem like they’re totally about Vance

Edit: actually, the posts are all about Vance. Still, not a great look to post the same comment too many times.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Spammy commenting aside though, I do think it’s a great idea

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Geez, this is the 25th time they've posted this.

I thought it was a funny idea the first time I saw it, but this is absolutely not a friendly way to use Lemmy.

[–] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's just kind of sad at this point.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

What’s sad is that I, and many others, sit here on Lemmy ingesting such horrible and depressing news about our world today — be it housing crisis, food availability, or any number of other topics — and feeling powerless to do anything about it. It’s maddening.

I decided that in my small way I’d make an attempt to do something about it. So, on every post about Vance, I would simply post a call to action. It’s nothing big or earth shattering. Just a simple political statement.

I am pleasantly surprised at the positive reception I have gotten (the upvotes and people expressing their approval through comments). But it’s ok if you don’t like them. I guess in a way it’s like the tide of beans memes that went around for a while — I didn’t like them myself, so I ignored them.

I’ll offer you this picture of beans as a peace offering. No hard feelings. 😊

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I'm personally grateful to see this comment repeated and reposted a lot and hope the mods understand that spreading things like this is one of the most important reason to have an interwebs.

Keep up the great work @dohpaz42@lemmy.world !

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This.
Except peeps at lemmy get upset and say, "I thought we agreed you couldn't post just, "This."!!!"
So, there's that.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I’ll do you one better: thank you. 😊

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Thank you. I do appreciate the support.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

spreading things like this is one of the most important reason to have an interwebs

Spreading unsubstantiated rumours?

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/07/jd-vance-couch-memes-associated-press

Vance is a complete and utter piece of shit. There are lots of things to attack him for, actual things he believes or has done. Making things up to discredit him isn't needed, and it's definitely not an important reason to have the internet.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Making the powerful and evil into objects of ridicule is a non-violent way to rob them of some of their power. The less social capital this noted cushion enthusiast can command, the better.

Since our democracy lacks a formal process of ostracism to deal with people like this, saying "pfft, whatever you useless couchfucker" is the next best thing.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then ridicule him for things he's actually done. There are lots of them. By making things up you're no better than the people spreading lies about Hillary or Obama. This isn't the road you want to go down.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

no better than the people spreading lies about Hillary or Obama

I don't think that people with different skin color, or sexuality should be made to suffer for it, so I would suggest I'm better than most of them in that regard.

I also don't have any problem with people ridiculing obama or hillary. That's obviously fine. All politicians deserve ridicule and our society is improved when the powerful are regularly insulted.

As long as it isn't being used to reinforce dangerous hatreds like racism, sexism, homophobia etc. - which increases the danger to the already marginalized - why would anyone care?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s not about spreading unsubstantiated rumors or discrediting him (he’s doing a fine enough job of that on his own). It’s about using humor to make a peaceful political statement. It’s my humble call to action for those who are tired of this man’s bullshit, and letting him know that we are tired of his bullshit. Do I believe he fucked a couch? No. And even if he did, it wouldn’t change how I feel about him.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

If that’s the case, I apologize. I’ll have to go back and check the ones I’ve posted on. Thanks for the heads up.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

....but it is hilarious.

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Didn't this guy fuck a couch? I'm just asking.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When you’re rich the couches let you whatever you want. Grab em by the cushion.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago
[–] TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I heard he goes for large expensive couches. More cushion for the pushin'.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Many people are saying he did, but then some others have come forward to say he didn't, but those of us are just asking questions and want to know: "I don't know, were you actually there? How can you tell me he didn't fuck a couch"?

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All I know is that a lot of important people and news organizations are asking questions about this man banging his couch.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas.

The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows.

“Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-f****r,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”

“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofab****h deny it.”

Hunter S. Thompson, 1972. Politics never changes.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago (3 children)

My guess is that Pedo Donnie will use Vance as a scapegoat when his campaign fails miserably.

[–] Foreigner@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Doesn't matter, people who can should go vote.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

He'll probably blame rigged elections for his loss. In his mind, he wants to avoid the idea he ever made a bad choice.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

The man has never recognized an election loss, even in primaries where the result didn't really matter. What makes you think he'll recognize the next one?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The New York Times is so bad on politics. Obviously Vance said some terrible things and has some terrible views, but that doesn't matter to his hardcore followers, and it doesn't even matter much to people who are thinking of staying home. Nobody is going to listen to Democrats trash the man and all of a sudden decide that he's worthless, because of course the Democrats would portray him that way. It happens to be true, but one would naturally be skeptical of such a portrayal.

But hey, the Times really wants to ride that centrist bandwagon, that mythical position where they aren't pushing for anything except we all know they are, and all they want is more attention. I'm just happy that they put themselves behind a pay wall. Now there's no chance I'm going to read their articles.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It seems like it is useful to try to speak to the median voter and (supposed) undecideds who would be affected by this. There are lots of other publications with different perspectives. Is it bad necessarily that this one exists and operates this way?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

He's not polling very well. The more the low-info voter types learn about this guy, the less they like him, too. He just comes off like a very creepy weirdo.

[–] Thrife@feddit.org 14 points 3 months ago

Man, this Steven Cheoung has some serious "you sure you're on the right team?"-vibes.

He said this about the democrats: “We’re going to beat the brakes off them, and there is nothing they can do about it.”

Does anybody else read this as "were going to make the democrats unstoppable"?

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 12 points 3 months ago
[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Wrong-pick Mini-Hitler Tries Hard As Obama 2.0 Makes Her Debut Unto Gushing Support and Praise”

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's face it: JD is just plain weird and creepy and comes off like a total freak. Like something out of a movie (or a book/show like Handmaid's Tale) kind of freak.

In addition - he looks like a total spineless jackass when it comes to him saying the convicted felon was America's Hitler, and now he's Hitler's VP. Imagine that...

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's face it: JD is just plain weird and creepy and comes off like a total freak. Like something out of a movie (or a book/show like Handmaid's Tale) kind of freak.

So, right down the Republican alley...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Maybe for their magabrained ones. Not too sure about even their normie set, never mind the low-info "undecided" voters that decide so many elections.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago

“The fact remains that Kamala Harris is weak, failed and dangerously liberal, and no amount of gaslighting from her moronic, too-online campaign will erase her despicable record,” Mr. Cheung said on Saturday. “We’re going to beat the brakes off them, and there is nothing they can do about it.”

Could you talk more like a child?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That’s not even his name either 🤣

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Stumble? He didn't get off the metaphorical sofa. He didn't get out of the literal sofa.