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I firmly believe that if any other candidate, in a primary or general election, either republican or democrat, had said this, it would end their campaign.
We have become so accustomed to Trump saying outrageous bullshit, that this will be forgotten in less than a week, and most voters will never even hear about it.
Trump has steadily pushed the limit of what a politician can get away with for years. He is a master bullshiter devoid of any moral capacity to feel shame and bullshited his way through everything. No low will ever be too low for him.
Idk I loved hearing about him muttering "I won" over and over to himself when he lost the 2020 election.
And if that was bad, losing to a brown woman... My God.
I can only HOPE that there are lows too low for him. He's surely speeding towards that finish line.
If we're lucky hearing that he lost to a brown woman will literally break his heart and it'll be done with.
That would basically end the fucking cult.
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:Losing won't assuage the endless need Herr Drumpf has - only death will.
Probably shouldn't say that
He is the water, the world is the frog
I'm not sure why the senate shouldn't subpoena him, and have him appear before them to explain just what he means by this. He wouldn't show, of course, and end up in contempt of congress. Of course, this would make him even more popular with his cult, but we already know who they'll vote for.
Really, he keeps doing shit that would get anyone else arrested. It's time to arrest him.
Nah, don't even give him a platform. Let him fade away into our terrible history.
He has a platform. He needs repercussions.
So wrong. Confront bullies. never appease!!
It's easily forgotten because he'll say something new and outrageous again next week. Even his voters don't know what he intends to do. They just get caught up in whatever word salad they attach to. In reality, he will probably not do a fraction of the bullshit that he spews as promises. He has never kept a promise in his life anyway. He's not starting now.
Last time he was president all he did was golfing while letting bad guys run wild. He's enabling "chaotic evil" by being an idiot.
For instance, the pathetic half-assed wall didn't solve the immigration issue at all. The real evil were the stooges organising ICE to encage children.
It is not random. He has a group of people doing a deceptively good job crafting the message for each region. Just like he did in 2016 with Cambridge Analytica.
He, himself, is a barely coherent idiot, but I think it allows their message to be received by people who also don't have that good an education.
E.G. find one of his speeches from the rust belt. They're all fairly similar. Will hit notes of corruption, proud people, fight the NYC and California democrats that did this to them, anti-trade and protectionism, etc. Then go find one like this one that was to bible belt extremists. Completely different. Will still hit some common notes(NYC/Cali), but the underlying message and theme are miles apart.
Edit: to be clear, its all bullshit lies that are telling people exactly what they want to hear.
all he did was golfing while letting bad guys run wild
there was also that time when he tried to stage a coup
Other people organized, staged, and enacted that coup. When he realized it was happening, he decided the coup stagers were "loyal" to him, so he was on board from that point on.
The way it works is that when some kind of scandal is unveiled (like project 2025 in this case) he goes with it openly.
His base hears it and take it that he is just "playing libs and doesn't really mean it, and even if it does it wouldn't be a bad idea"
His base is clearly hopeless, but hopefully it won't affect independents.
Within a matter of hours there was already a swarm of apologists going "here's what he actually meant".
And in the same breath "I like him because he says what he thinks".
He really could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and his voters would love him for it.
Please take this to heart, magas.
I'm worried that they will.
At the risk of flogging an already well-flogged dead horse, MAGAts don't care what he says as long as it upsets people they don't like.
And when those ideologies come back to bite them, they'll blame those same disliked people for either causing it or not stopping it, because neither they nor their preferred politician(s) could possibly be to blame for it.
Our biggest mistake will be never addressing these people's bullshit. I mean it's not like they can be punished but allowing it to go on with no remedy leaves us all exposed.
People often segregate themselves into bubbles separated from others they oppose. I can say since the political affiliation is known from past elections, that has become a stronger factor when I am deliberating on which places I would want to live. I'm sure this is adding to the polarization, where people are gravitating to communities that more often reinforce their beliefs and give them fewer opportunities to challenge them.
How can we counter this polarizing force?
I'm not sure but I'd like to have some ideas. This is one of those questions that is reason for academia. It deserves study and research. Now funding that research may be impossible because it doesn't serve the oligarchy but you know, that's why we fight.
This is what MAGAs genuinely want.
They believe the lie that a bunch of dead people and illegal immigrants are voting and tipping the scales for the left. When they hear “fixed” they think Trump is going to stop that fake problem from happening.
This is something if a Democrat had said both sides would have their head on a pike. Teflon dons existence is a testimony to how awful people are.
Hell if a Republican who wasn't him had said it, he'd be fucking crucified.
I assumed at first it was a satyrical journal like the Onion and read it in that optic. Then I saw the comments and thought a few people had missed the joke and were taking it seriously. Then started doubting, checked what type of paper it was and if other known ones (like nytime) also talked about it...
This is real, fellas. He really did say that.
Gotta steal the news headlines somehow I guess.
And people still calling P2025 a big joke.
It reminds me of the movie Mars Attacks when the aliens kept saying “we come in peace!”, and laughing as they were blasting everyone.
Only a few steps away from "you don't get to vote".
Vance said he wants only people with kids to be able to vote. And they will be able to vote on behalf of their children until they can vote for themselves. These people are something else.
These people are something else.
Fascists.
It'll be like elections in Russia. Somehow, Putin always wins with 80-90% of the vote.
We know Trump, you want to illegalize elections and have life time appointments for President.
isnt that common knowledge? he just said the quiet part out loud now.
he would have to eventually, to manufacture peoples consent.
No, I agree with him. His supporters should not vote anytime in the future. Just stay home.
Maga family is saying it means something else, according to pundit.
What are they saying it means
They're saying that allegedly, Christians are not big on voting, and this statement is meant to encourage those non voters to come vote just this once and everything will get better. Then you can go back to being a non voter.
I think.
Horrible wording no matter how you slice it, though.
Trump ONLY says what he Means! And what he Means is ALWAYS a Riddle to Pwn the Libtards! He's a JEENYUS!
Is he baiting by saying that by next election america will be in such good shape that both choices will be good? Or is he seriously dogwhistling for the pro-dictator crowd?
When a politician says they are going to be a dictator, believe them.
It isn't dogwhistling. He's just coming right out and saying it.
I mean I think it's important to analyze his plausible deniability tactics. He didn't literally say, "I will cancel the 2028 elections", he made a vague threat that "you won't have to vote".
We need to shut these arguments down because Fox will definitely use them to defend Trump and normalize authoritarian policies.