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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 125 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

She's asking neoliberals to step aside and let more progressives in. But neoliberals own the Democratic Party, and they will never give it up.

These diet conservatives suckle at the same billionaire teats as Republicans. They should be tossed on the same smoldering pile as other conservatives.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Well, they also owned the Republican party once, and magas/fascists took it over. That means progressives can take over the Democratic party.

No party lasts forever and these two have been way overdue. The way a new party becomes "one of the two" in the US' 2-party system is either by building up a third party from the bottom up over many years, or by taking control and transforming one of the existing two, which is much faster, as we've seen.

Technically the fascist magas started in earnest in 2008 with the Tea party movement as a backlash to Obama, not succeeding to oust Obama in 2012, and taking 8 years to get to Trump. Progressives started in 2016 as a reaction to Trump, got Trump out in 4 years, and stopped the predicted "red wave" in 2022. We're on track, let's keep it going. Don't give up.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Could but too many bitch endlessly online then don't show up to vote anyway. Or vote third party in a fptp system.

God it'd be nice if it happened though.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A grassroots progressive takeover is much more difficult than a fascist takeover though. Fascists are always in bed with the oligarchy and get the money and media support.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's always harder for people with morals who aren't ruthless assholes. But that doesn't mean it can't happen, just that it takes more work.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

...progressives can take over the Democratic party.

Hear, hear! It will not be given. It must be taken, aggressively. Your Tea Party example is perfect.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sometimes you gotta learn the hard way.

She's there to agitate, influence, draw attention, and gather power.

I don't believe she really thinks her actions will change the minds of the people around her, but they're not supposed to. Her words are for the people who overhear, rather than those in power.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Make way

And not for nothing, this lady makes the meanest martini I’ve ever had

Listen to her

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This reads like an Elden Ring message

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Try hole, finger but

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She should name names. We need to know who the collaborators will be.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 65 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

She doesnt know who. She responding to a blind quote from Axios that was attributed to a "senior house democrat" that said "we have resigned ourselves to a second trump term."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Will be? Are.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Democrats who believe they are insulated from reality by position or wealth can get fucked.

Seriously, to the politicians it’s just games and political maneuvering. They’ll sacrifice us to maintain their power. But eventually they’ll get taken out in a purge, too.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah. That was on my mind.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 months ago
[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Resign themselves to fascism

Thats the entire fucking party

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 months ago

Bro do you want only republicans in the government?