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Based on the 2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

Via a former conservative on Reddit:

  • The government won’t allow you to get an abortion even if giving birth would kill you (p.449 - 503)
  • The government won’t let you buy condoms or plan b (p.449)
  • The government will give more free money to the ultra-rich and the largest corporations (p.691)
  • The government will not allow for workers to be protected at work (p.581)
  • The government will steal your social security (p.691)
  • The government will take away Medicare (p.449)
  • The government will not let you find affordable healthcare (p.449)
  • The government will refuse to help educate our children (p.319)
  • The government will give your tax money to private schools for christians (p.319)
  • The government will force public schools to become religious schools for christians (p.319)
  • The government will fire you for the color of your skin (p545 - 581)
  • The government will tell you what you’re allowed to think (p319)
  • The government will sell our land to be permanently destroyed (p417)
  • The government will sell the arctic to oil companies (p363)
  • Big business and oil will be allowed to do whatever they want without consequences (p.363)
  • The government will tell you what a family is supposed to look like. Anything else is a crime. (p.545 - 581)
  • The government will make us deaf/blind to attack by destroying the FBI and Homeland Security (p.133)
  • The government will build concentration camps to get rid of anyone deemed un-American (p.133)
  • If you’re born in the United States you are not automatically a citizen (p.133)
  • The government will make it legal for food to be poison (p.363 - 417)

Claims without a citation yet:

  • The government will not let you get a divorce without “proof” of wrongdoing
  • Your taxes will go up
  • The government will not let you retire
  • Drugs will cost more
  • The government will let your kids go hungry while they are forced to attend these schools
  • The government will tell you what you’re allowed to read and burn the rest
  • The government will freely kill citizens they disagree with
  • The government will attack single mothers because that’s not a “traditional” family
  • The government will order our active-duty military to attack us if we protest
  • The government will make being muslim on American soil a crime
  • The government will make sure all judges are more loyal to the party than they are to the country
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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 135 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Looks like we’re gonna have to kill some fucking Nazis again

[–] nick@midwest.social 52 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Guess im buying some more guns and ammo before November.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Protect yourself and your loved ones. This shit is straight up tyranny.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

It is part of what 2A was actually meant for.

Would be interesting to see who comes out on top in a battle. A Gravy SEAL or a yoga instructor. One has gun accuracy, the other has everything else.

But I'm sure by day 30 everyone's over it after another country swoops in to annex during the instability. It's not like allies can do anything until that point, and then there'll be that whole rule of engagement where they can't involve or engage with any Gravy SEALs or yoga instructors unless fired upon first. Which I imagine would happen a lot since the militias have never been "well regulated" and are in no way ready for combat, let alone identifying what's friendly or foe.

"Whoah! Stop shooting! We're England!"

"The hell you boys doin' 'ere?"

"The annexation."

"The wha?"

"You're losing your country to Russia and China for like eight months now."

"We are?"

"Yeah, most of the west coast is already their's. We're trying to hold them off-"

"California too?"

"Yes. That's where they landed."

"Buddy, that is great news! I gotta report this to HQ." crosses street to Taco Bell "Captain Grand Wizard, we fuckin' did it!"

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Add drone and 3D printer etc etc

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This time the Americans are the Nazis.

[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

always were, if you ask the natives, the global south, black folk

[–] coolcat1711@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I just don't really get why people even get behind stuff like this. There's just nothing for anyone to really gain and a whole lot for everyone to lose...

Even the mega rich and the corporations have to recognize that an unstable world isn't really a great place to live or do business right? Or is it just that they're so far removed from everything that they don't have to care?

By the time you're benefiting from this in a non-symbolic way, your net worth is more than you can conceivably spend in a lifetime... Go home, you're done!

[–] DannyMac@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

They'll have a care once they hear that guillotine blade start its decent

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[–] Nath@aussie.zone 71 points 4 months ago (6 children)

As I intentionally filter out as much US politics as I can, this has come out of nowhere for me.

Australia has a couple of really simple things baked into its electoral system to resist something wildly unpopular like this from getting in power:

  1. Compulsory voting. These MAGA crazies are not and will never be the majority. If everyone had to vote, they'd never get in.
  2. Proportional voting. We vote for multiple candidates. If our first choice doesn't get in, our vote goes to our second choice. Then third etc. we aren't forced to vote for a lizard just to prevent the worse lizard getting in (it still almost always comes down to two parties, though).

I know these are total non-starters for our American friends. "You can't make me vote, that's against the constitution or something".

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

As an American, I think I'd support compulsory voting... But the right would fight that with everything they had, because if everyone had to vote, they'd never win with their current stances.

[–] inefficient_electron@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, these have saved us on a lot of issues I feel. It’s simply a much more representative system than what the Americans do and it helps keep a lot of fringe ideologies at the fringes, where they usually belong.

Minor correction, we have preferential voting not proportional.

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[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Ranked choice voting (proportional) is still making its way slowly into the mainstream, but with very little reason the change the main political parties torpedo it when they can.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 63 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be easier just to move to North Korea? There you can enjoy those perks from day one.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As a non american, is this funking real? Not a shitpost? Holy shit the more i read, the worse it becomes. Wtf.

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

This is very real. You can read it here: https://www.project2025.org. You can google multiple right wing websites commenting on it for yourself.

Or you can watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwqpx6lp_s

Believe people when they tell you who they are.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I was thinking surely there must be at least one positive bulletpoint reading that shyte

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

There is! ... If you're an ultra conservative right wing trump supporter

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Another way to look at this plan is: how to create an unstable and globally uncompetitive workforce.

America will become a shithole country where no one will want to live or work. The rich will send their children to study and work elsewhere.

When America is inhospitable to everyone except to multi-millionaires or billionaires (who live elsewhere rn anyways, btw as they have multiple nationalities and passports), the rest of the upper class will jump ship to other countries, where they will always get to enjoy the progressive policies and culture they deprive others of.

Remember: if the daughter of a rich person will get pregnant, she will have access to abortion

If the children of the rich want to have sex, they will have contraception

The rich will choose to live in countries with Medicare and other social programs

The rich will always have access to rights, and would straight up be able to “buy justice”, like in countries like India, Pakistan, Mexico, Brazil etc

The rich will always be able to afford clean water and air

Project 2025 isn’t about race or lgbt or “fambily vablues” as the mealy mouthed hypocrites would have you believe. It’s straight class warfare.

All Americans are a target of the class warfare, regardless of their socioeconomic status. Even the rich are worse off because they get to enjoy the judicial process here in America, as opposed to getting robbed by the state as in Russia or China.

In short, project 2025 is a dumb cunt plan of no foresight or insight, and definitely not written by anyone who has goodwill towards Americans or any patriotism

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

But you're not thinking about the short term gains for the 1%!

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[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Condemn single mothers while promoting only "traditional families."

Should be: Condemn single mothers instead of absent parents.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Five@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

I hear he's saying he doesn't know who came up with it. Here's what Wikipedia says:

Project 2025 partners employ over 200 former officials from the Trump administration.[55] Notable authors of the project's Mandate for Leadership include many officials and advisors from the Trump administration, including Jonathan Berry, Ben Carson, Ken Cuccinelli, Rick Dearborn, Thomas Gilman, Mandy Gunasekara, Gene Hamilton, Christopher Miller, Bernard McNamee, Stephen Moore, Mora Namdar, Peter Navarro, William Perry Pendley, Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Kiron Skinner, Roger Severino, Hans von Spakovsky, Brooks Tucker, Russell Vought, and Paul Winfree.[56] Former president Trump has not publicly endorsed Project 2025, and his campaign said such recommendations from "external allies" are just "recommendations."[57]

Vought was named policy director of the Republican National Committee platform committee in May 2024.[58]

At the 2023 Iowa State Fair, the leaders of Project 2025 began recruiting people for future government posts in the event of a Republican victory.[59]

On July 5, 2024 Former President Trump expressed his disagreement with Project 2025 in a statement: "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal."[60][61]

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How would he "disagree with some of the things they're saying" when he "know(s) nothing about Project 2025?

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is what the bots here don’t want you voting against. Vote like lives depend on it!

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

I'm the OP, and I also post in !notvoting@slrpnk.net. I'm a human who's been called a bot, and an advocate for Ukrainians and Russians against colonization and tyranny who has been called a Russian puppet.

Whether you vote or not isn't important to me as long as whoever gets elected, you continue to fight for a better world via direct action. We're in exactly this situation because people's political resistance begins and ends with voting, and that means the people who get the 'progressive' vote merely have to be the least worst fascist on the ballot. Totalitarian tyranny isn't built on the virtues of the tyrants, but the failures of the liberals. The Democrats created this situation, and they deserve to face consequences for it.

Blaming bogey-men like Russian bots and scapegoating politically 'unsophisticated' leftists only puts off the self-reflection that needs to happen so that if the United States survives this election, they won't be back in exactly this situation with a new fascist threat in another 4 years.

[–] icydefiance@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're in this situation because people don't vote.

All other forms of political activism, aside from murder, exist to convince people to vote.

Activism without voting is worthless.

You want more progressive candidates? Vote for Democrats until Republicans are forced to move to the left, and then Democrats will be able to move to the left as well.

That's how the Overton window works.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Whether you vote or not isn't important to me as long as whoever gets elected, you continue to fight for a better world via direct action.

If Trump gets elected, you may start getting shot for fighting for a better world via direct action. Or for many other things.

The Democrats created this situation,

100% true

and they deserve to face consequences for it.

Along with millions or potentially billions of others, who didn’t do anything wrong?

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is this real? Did they just sit down and brainstorm how to be as evil as possible without diving right into genocide?

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 16 points 4 months ago

This is just the latest draft. It’s been building up since before the John Birch Society.

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[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Some of the "claims without a citation" are things that were done under the first Trump administration.

  • taxes did go up for most Americans under the last tax bill. It's safe to say that if Republicans need to raise taxes it'll be through the lower and middle class.

  • kids go hungry or into debt for school lunches today because of how little some families make. Trump admin agnostic but definitely a feature for the Republican party and not a bug.

  • books are being banned in the US at an alarming rate, look at Florida as a prime example. Trump admin agnostic but definitely a party priority.

  • trump suggested multiple times as president that people should just be shot, killed, or executed for things as benign as protesting outside the Whitehouse. He didn't do it, but it's a pretty short distance between "the president wants to kill you" and "the president is having you killed".

  • the president did send in national guard and other militarily equipped groups to beat and pepper spray journalists and protestors while president.

  • trump appointmented judges clearly lack the experience, qualifications, and apolitical-ness expected of a normal judge. You can see that in the supreme Court and you can see that at the federal judge level.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 4 months ago

I think the pure length of it introduces enough delay before encountering the really terrifying parts and might interfere with the punch of the message. I might try to do a modified version with some bold text and larger sections so some of the strong full impact comes across right away, without trying to reduce the detail or the scope

Also, I think it is relevant to repeat the founders’ feeling on it. The “government” doesn’t “let” you do anything. Everyone’s just born into the earth into this wild and semiorganized place, as weird social beings that are half monkeys and half made up of something a lot more inspirational. And from time to time, they want to set up a system they all agree on so they can have clean water and roadways and courts and someone centrally in charge of the economy, things like that. But, sometimes like a few thousand people put temporarily in charge of all that start to look around at all the guns and money in their command and get confused and think they have the right to tell 400 million other people “hey check it out you have to do what I say, I DGAF what you think or of it’s right, that’s just what’s up.” And then when that happens it is the job of the 400 million to re educate them on what’s up.

And you could say that if they don’t, they deserve what happens. But honestly it’s not even a statement of deserves or not, or right and wrong. It is simply a statement of the reality of what happens. Most of things like the bill of rights is understood today as like, what the government is “allowed” to restrict and not, but the founders’ view of it was a lot more akin to, these are some examples of what people will do as inherent parts of their nature and God help you if you try to tell them they can’t, and they become alert and organized.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I might get downvoted to oblivion. Why can’t America have a decent president for once again?

Trump is a fascist or at least going on its way to it and supports Israel with what’s it is doing in Gaza. Biden is in the old age and probably has just old age issues and supports Israel with what it is doing in Gaza.

It isn’t just America either, The Netherlands with PVV, France with Le Pen (if I said the name correct?), Germany with the whole AFD thing. Russia and its war on Ukraine.

The world seems to have gone mad.

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[–] Coldgoron@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago
[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like the Republican party has been taken over by the Taliban. You guys should invade their headquarters and bring them freedom.

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[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 8 points 4 months ago

Man .. i thought this was a funny meme until i noticed the difference in the post description.

F

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Adolf's waving back...

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Oh look! The topic that actually matters in the election. Far more important than old guys old and waahhh biden not liberal enough.

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